From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9741381F3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:08:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB52721C046; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5DA6E05D9 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (66-208-231-133.ubr01a.rte20201.pa.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [66.208.231.133]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lgq1W-1SvxYe0VkM-00o8ky; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:06:39 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:06:37 -0600 From: Bruce Hill To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) Message-ID: <20121112010637.GW17663@server> References: <5547419.JtVDJ1Bk26@energy> <20121111132241.GU17663@server> <1524141.GPK41Ktrl4@gentoo> <20121112013321.64a4e1e0@khamul.example.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:KOnLAp3TNG8GS7VuqiO1DyIetapm6lKqAF1yUFOU5ix Bn8D96NMawNkZSQCZ7g4MXucNOVwK9nHjw1q8+hbgrQzJBxQ4k sagn4WlAgThFgi2AiCV38Oy+UXux685iH0Gshkg8L0KWUXNf81 ruGEKX4jVMKZWMRvSjZugX71zOJr5bg1zcLGFa/viT3olDZgty j/zEA4uzPkD5PEFHKvRYJqFa/GW8xHmGPKhjJj+7H16YJif6UE nEHu6SnJbHGC31mJXxLNZyHJ6sXziU67y5e+Gfbf2LDZfzbJrn ywaD+QvxzmkzJQub8kIYerY+C0O5Gkau6jmSGJ2XlfHwA+eHOE nQNoaNurr9zaozFt+swf9rFvIpMeTO9i0ehqZ05V0 X-Archives-Salt: 1a43df1a-3a8f-4078-b849-ed901879efc6 X-Archives-Hash: 004b0153718a20983d19dea924aedfaa On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 06:24:32PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > Say Dude, > > > > I have a question (well, two actually) > > > > My name is Alan and I've been subscribed on this list for 7 years. > > > > What's your name, and how long have you been around? > > > > Just trying to establish your place in the pecking order in this here > > meritocracy. > > Seniority != meritocracy. And I don't know how much "meritocratic" > this list could be, since it is a users lists. The most "merit" a > member of this list can get is to give technically acurate, > constructive, and polite help for those users asking for it. > > IMO, the most active users of this lists usually fail in at least two > of those three, sometimes all of them. Unfortunately, I don't think I > have done better. I suscribed to this lists more than eight years ago; > I stopped asking for help here just a few months later. Which is > easily explained by people like you that believe that "being around" > longer somehow gives more "merit" and that there is a "pecking order". > > I was under the impression that, being all of us Gentoo users, we were > equals, although some of us know less about some things and some > others know more about some other things. Hence the smart, mature, and > polite exchange of ideas. I didn't know this was a pissing contest. > > This is a technical help list, related to the Gentoo Linux > distribution. Please, don't try to "pull rank" in here; you just look > bad, and at least I would laugh at the futility of it. Even more > considering I've been around longer: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@gentoo.org/msg35368.html > > Mmmh. Maybe I've been around even longer than 8 years. But, who the > cares? > > It's completely relevant. > > Regards. > -- > Canek Peláez Valdés > Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación > Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México Other than your use of profanity, that post was worth making a sticky. Over the last 9 years I've subscribed/unsubscribed to a good number of lists. The first such abuse of others was A.O.L.S. -- yes, you just look bad, real bad. There is one LUG to which I'm subscribed, which is still good for support and edification of others. Since I (re)joined this list on Oct 21, it appears that only 3 messages have been of enough technical merit for saving. -- Happy Penguin Computers >') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ support@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting