From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099851381F3 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:30:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50DFF21C0A3; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.muc.de (colin.muc.de [193.149.48.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7325AE04BA for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 62964 invoked by uid 3782); 10 Nov 2012 13:29:00 -0000 Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9557F62.dip.t-dialin.net [217.85.127.98]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:29:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 3601 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Nov 2012 13:23:03 -0000 Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:23:03 +0000 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot with kernel 3.5.7: init not being started Message-ID: <20121110132303.GB2859@acm.acm> References: <20121109174729.GA2410@acm.acm> <509D4779.6060400@binarywings.net> <20121109184653.GB2410@acm.acm> <509D94C7.2040204@binarywings.net> <20121110111110.GA2859@acm.acm> <509E40D2.4090204@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <509E40D2.4090204@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: Alan Mackenzie X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-Archives-Salt: a111dcac-d0d7-45cd-94bc-2baec7f59dfc X-Archives-Hash: 9bf1a1c5e6eca245e41b832d9271d439 Hi, On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 05:56:02AM -0600, Dale wrote: > Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > It would seem that configuring and building a kernel is an activity > > for experienced users, not beginners. ;-( > Not really. It just takes practice. If you never build one, you will > never get the practice. ;-) ;-) I've built quite a few in my time as a Gentoo user, and one or two when I was still using Debian. Configuring a kernel is more difficult than the available documentation might lead one to believe. There are many hundreds of options to be considered, a large part of which are "irrelevant" (i.e. the kernel will work regardless of these options). Distinguishing the critical options from the irrelevant ones is difficult. Precisely such an error is what I made. Some options are relatively easy to set, for example, those under "drivers", where you select drivers for all the hardware you've got. But what about sections like "general setup"? Do I really need CONFIG_AUDIT? On reading the help, I shouldn't, but some program (can't remember which) complains if it's not there. What about "Checkpoint/restore support"? About what? Reading the help for each of these mysterious options is _hard work_. Normally, I can get through 'make menuconfig' in about an hour and a half, with the help of a checklist I wrote in June 2011. I can't remember how I managed when I was first installing Gentoo. > Dale > :-) :-) -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).