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[217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v9sm2171124wif.10.2012.11.03.05.25.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 03 Nov 2012 05:25:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Razor-qt advice Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 12:25:16 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.4.9-gentoo; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <201210312246.43369.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <201211030011.44611.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20121103022252.0effe032@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <20121103022252.0effe032@khamul.example.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1594631.0QumAE9UWj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201211031225.34930.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: bca6b62b-da80-40c6-b10c-7667d9fe751c X-Archives-Hash: 623bddf2032c088f1e06ec19a8f58a4e --nextPart1594631.0QumAE9UWj Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday 03 Nov 2012 00:22:52 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 00:11:34 +0000 >=20 > Mick wrote: > > On Friday 02 Nov 2012 06:21:39 Mick wrote: > > > On Thursday 01 Nov 2012 13:46:20 Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Mick > > > >=20 > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Thursday 01 Nov 2012 03:53:44 Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > > > >> On Wed, 2012-10-31 at 23:12 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: > > > > >> > 121101 Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > > > >> > > On Wed, 2012-10-31 at 22:46 +0000, Mick wrote: > > > > >> > >> I was thinking of using razor-qt > > > > >> > >=20 > > > > >> > > From the Oct 20 automated package removal email > > > > >> > > you might want to investigate why before moving to it. > > > > >> > >=20 > > > > >> > > x11-wm/razorqt 2012-10-22 > > > > >> > >=20 > > > > >> > > 10:00:01 yngwin x11-misc/lightdm-razorqt-greeter > > > > >> > > 2012-10-22 10:01:35 > > > > >> > >=20 > > > > >> > > yngwin > > > > >> >=20 > > > > >> > As sometimes happens, "removal" really means "moved" : > > > > >> > it has a new Portage category all to itself, like Xfce. > > > > >>=20 > > > > >> Thanks for clarifying. > > > > >>=20 > > > > >> BillK > > > > >=20 > > > > > Phew! Just as I was about to hit the abort button. :-) > > > > >=20 > > > > > Has anyone tried it and can comment how it compares to KDE? > > > > > -- > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Mick > > > >=20 > > > > Mick, > > > >=20 > > > > I've used 0.4.2 a bit. It worked fine but as a KDE user it > > > >=20 > > > > felt a > > > >=20 > > > > little strange. I didn't invest much time to make myself more > > > > comfortable. > > > >=20 > > > > My trading partner who is newer to Linux (about 1 year now) has > > > >=20 > > > > been using razor-qt for the last month or so. He was fine with > > > > 0.4.2 but when they moved the package group they also had an > > > > update to 0.5. Unfortunately this did not produce correct > > > > resolutions on one of his three monitors so he's back to running > > > > KDE and doing updates on razor until that gets fixed. (TTBOMK he > > > > has not filed a bug report.) > > >=20 > > > Thank you all for your responses. The PC in question has two > > > monitors, with different resolutions, so I will be needing this to > > > work fine (or will never hear the end of it). > > >=20 > > > I'll make some time to try it out over the weekend and if they > > > don't like it I may push the boat out and switch to e17 (which I am > > > more familiar with). > >=20 > > Ahhh! Abort - Abort! > >=20 > > It tries to load Gnome packages ... > >=20 > > Calculating dependencies... done! > > [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-common-3.1.0 148 kB > > [ebuild N ] dev-lang/vala-0.12.1 USE=3D"vapigen -test" 2,233 kB > > [ebuild N ] dev-util/gdbus-codegen-2.32.4 > > PYTHON_TARGETS=3D"python2_7 python3_2 -python2_5 -python2_6 -python3_1" > > 0 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.22 > > USE=3D"introspection -doc - vala" 324 kB > > [ebuild N ] x11-misc/lightdm-1.0.11 USE=3D"introspection qt4 > > -branding - gtk -test" 636 kB > > [snip ...] > >=20 > > I thought it was USE=3Dbranding in lightdm that did it, but I disabled > > branding for lightdm, so I don't know what's pulling these in. > >=20 > > It seems that I'll need to try it with kdm instead. >=20 > use the -t option to emerge. >=20 > that will tell you in a tree display what pulls in what. > Reading the ebuild for that package tells you why. Thanks Alan, I set USE=3D"-lightdm" and installed it without gnome dependen= cies. It seems lightweight enough and troublefree. The only two thinks I couldn'= t=20 find how to set is: 1. Primary monitor: The taskbar (or whatever you call it) at the bottom of the screen. The use= r=20 has two monitors of different dimensions and in KDE I had it set to show th= e=20 taskbar in the right monitor 1920x1080, i.e. using the right monitor as the= =20 main monitor. Instead with razor-qt the left monitor 1280x1024 is set as t= he=20 default monitor with the taskbar at its bottom. 2. GPG-agent: KDE starts gpg/ssh agents with its start-up script. Razor-qt does not seem= to=20 have something similar to clear existing gpg agent processes and start new= =20 when the desktop loads. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart1594631.0QumAE9UWj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlCVDT4ACgkQVTDTR3kpaLZRiQCfd5B+N2BW8mWtJhiitNdiZwpw p2sAoJqWiFl5ezLKl3eN12Cfhu252BoW =A75b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1594631.0QumAE9UWj--