[gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!

[gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!

[Andrew Lowe]

Hi all,
I did an "emerge -NuD world", it nearly finished, 2 or 3 big files to 
go, when I decided it was bed time. I killed the build and went to bed. 
This morning I can't now fire up Konsole, which I use as my terminal, 
XTerm or UXTerm.

	In more detail, I get the Konsole window, the menu is there and I can 
open other tabs etc, but instead of the command prompt, I just get a 
small grey blob in the top left hand corner. Hitting return does not get 
me any carriage returns.

	XTerm gives me the bouncing icon next to the cursor for a period of 
time then disappears.

	UXTerm gives me a small window with the message:

"uxterm tried unsuccessfully to use locale en_US.UTF-8 by setting 
$LC_CTYPE to "en_US.UTF-8.

and that's all. I hit the OK button on the window and it all disappears.

	Last night Konsole was fine, I did the emerge through it, but now 
nothing. I didn't do revded-rebuild or etc-update as I usually do after 
a world emerge.

	Does anyone know what's wrong and how I can get out of this bind. 
Something without having to resorting to rescue disks would be good but 
if all else fails.....

	Thanks for any thoughts,
		Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!

[Andrew Lowe]

On 10/24/12 10:31, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> Hi all,
> I did an "emerge -NuD world", it nearly finished, 2 or 3 big files to
> go, when I decided it was bed time. I killed the build and went to bed.
> This morning I can't now fire up Konsole, which I use as my terminal,
> XTerm or UXTerm.
[snip]

	If anyone else comes across this  problem, I found this solution in the 
forums:

http://tinyurl.com/9soejz5


	Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:17:20 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote:

> 	If anyone else comes across this  problem, I found this
> solution in the forums:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/9soejz5

It is also stated in the emerge output that you need to add udev-mount to
the sysinit runlevel.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

The number one cause of computer problems is computer solutions.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 24 Oct 2012 08:58:58 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:17:20 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > 	If anyone else comes across this  problem, I found this
> > 
> > solution in the forums:
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/9soejz5
> 
> It is also stated in the emerge output that you need to add udev-mount to
> the sysinit runlevel.

I saw that too, but did not add udev-mount to any runlevel.  I guess this is a 
problem only if /usr is on another partition than root, or is it going to hit 
me at a later update?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!

[Andrew Lowe]

On 26/10/2012 3:27 AM, Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 24 Oct 2012 08:58:58 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:17:20 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote:
>>> 	If anyone else comes across this  problem, I found this
>>>
>>> solution in the forums:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/9soejz5
>>
>> It is also stated in the emerge output that you need to add udev-mount to
>> the sysinit runlevel.
>
> I saw that too, but did not add udev-mount to any runlevel.  I guess this is a
> problem only if /usr is on another partition than root, or is it going to hit
> me at a later update?
>

	In my case that's not correct. The install was done exactly as per the 
handbook, /boot, swap and / on the one disk. I've added udev-mount at 
sysinit and things now "just work".

	Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:27:05 +0100, Mick wrote:

> > It is also stated in the emerge output that you need to add
> > udev-mount to the sysinit runlevel.  
> 
> I saw that too, but did not add udev-mount to any runlevel.  I guess
> this is a problem only if /usr is on another partition than root, or is
> it going to hit me at a later update?

I don't think that's it. I deliberately tried leaving it out to see what
happened and I lost my Konsoles, but this box has a separate /usr mounted
by initramfs. The udev-mount script mounts /dev, so the problem would
have been caused by a missing device node.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Being defeated is a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it
permanent

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!

[Mick]

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On Friday 26 Oct 2012 09:35:44 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:27:05 +0100, Mick wrote:
> > > It is also stated in the emerge output that you need to add
> > > udev-mount to the sysinit runlevel.
> > 
> > I saw that too, but did not add udev-mount to any runlevel.  I guess
> > this is a problem only if /usr is on another partition than root, or is
> > it going to hit me at a later update?
> 
> I don't think that's it. I deliberately tried leaving it out to see what
> happened and I lost my Konsoles, but this box has a separate /usr mounted
> by initramfs. The udev-mount script mounts /dev, so the problem would
> have been caused by a missing device node.

I did not add udev-mount on 3 different machines, only one of which runs the 
full KDE enchilada.  That's the one that seems to be experiencing some 
problems lately - like printing causes the *printer* to crash.  Also 
occasionally the desktop will not load sitting there at the last login icon of 
kdm.

Perhaps I should add it and see if it makes a difference.
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!

[Raffaele BELARDI]

On 10/24/2012 09:58 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:17:20 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> 
>> If anyone else comes across this  problem, I found this solution
>> in the forums:
>> 
>> http://tinyurl.com/9soejz5
> 
> It is also stated in the emerge output that you need to add
> udev-mount to the sysinit runlevel.

That was it, thanks, I had missed the emerge message.

raf

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!

[Raffaele BELARDI]

On 10/24/2012 04:31 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> Hi all,
> I did an "emerge -NuD world", it nearly finished, 2 or 3 big files to 
> go, when I decided it was bed time. I killed the build and went to bed. 
> This morning I can't now fire up Konsole, which I use as my terminal, 
> XTerm or UXTerm.
> 
> 	In more detail, I get the Konsole window, the menu is there and I can 
> open other tabs etc, but instead of the command prompt, I just get a 
> small grey blob in the top left hand corner. Hitting return does not get 
> me any carriage returns.
> 

Same here on two different boxes, ~x86 and ~amd64. I'm on LXDE,
~/.lxde_errors reports that rxvt could not start due to lack of
pseudo-terminals. Issuing
   # mount /dev/pts
by hand temporarily solves the issue.

A related issue might be that during the boot I see that /dev/shm could
not be mounted. /dev/pts and /dev/shm are both mounted by
/etc/init.d/devfs, maybe that's failing?

The last emerge pulled in
  sys-apps/openrc-0.11.1
  sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-17-r1

but neither one has any bugs open relevant to this. Other ideas?

raf

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole, XTerm, UXTerm have all died!!!!!

[Raffaele BELARDI]

On 10/24/2012 08:02 AM, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
> On 10/24/2012 04:31 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I did an "emerge -NuD world", it nearly finished, 2 or 3 big files to 
>> go, when I decided it was bed time. I killed the build and went to bed. 
>> This morning I can't now fire up Konsole, which I use as my terminal, 
>> XTerm or UXTerm.
>>
>> 	In more detail, I get the Konsole window, the menu is there and I can 
>> open other tabs etc, but instead of the command prompt, I just get a 
>> small grey blob in the top left hand corner. Hitting return does not get 
>> me any carriage returns.
>>
> 
> Same here on two different boxes, ~x86 and ~amd64. I'm on LXDE,
> ~/.lxde_errors reports that rxvt could not start due to lack of
> pseudo-terminals. Issuing
>    # mount /dev/pts
> by hand temporarily solves the issue.
> 
> A related issue might be that during the boot I see that /dev/shm could
> not be mounted. /dev/pts and /dev/shm are both mounted by
> /etc/init.d/devfs, maybe that's failing?
> 
> The last emerge pulled in
>   sys-apps/openrc-0.11.1
>   sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-17-r1
> 
> but neither one has any bugs open relevant to this. Other ideas?
> 
> raf
> 

Forgot to mention that you can issue the mount command above from a text
terminal (CTRL-ALT-Fx).