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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 03:55:20 +0200
From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try?
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:04:55 -0500
Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Rule #1 in dealing with odd weird strange computer faults is ALWAYS
> > test with another PSU of at least twice the capacity you think you
> > need.
>
> +1 I always start with the P/S. Well, unless I see something else
> unrelated letting the smoke out. Even then tho, a bad P/S can cause
> the smoke to get out of something else too. It's good advice all the
> way around.
>
> Why not let the computer shop test the P/S? If it blows up something
> of theirs, it's bad. ;-)
You obviously have a much better opinion of the average repair techie
than I do. The average repair techie would know how to fault find his
way out of a paper bag - the "change bits till it starts working" is
the only technique they know.
That's not to say you don't get good ones - you do - but they are rare.
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com