[gentoo-user] GUI for LVM?

[gentoo-user] GUI for LVM?

[Bill Kenworthy]

Is there a GUI in portage for managing an LV?  Fedora etc have
system-config-lvm but I cant find anything for gentoo.

(the commandline tools are good, but this is something where I want a
visual check before in case I am assuming something thats wrong).

BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] GUI for LVM?

[Dale]

Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> Is there a GUI in portage for managing an LV?  Fedora etc have
> system-config-lvm but I cant find anything for gentoo.
>
> (the commandline tools are good, but this is something where I want a
> visual check before in case I am assuming something thats wrong).
>
> BillK
>
>

Well, webmin is back in portage.  There is also a new program called
kvpm that is in a overlay, kde overlay I think.  No further info on that
since I don't have it installed.  I just installed webmin and it is
there so that may help you. 

If you go the webmin route, just emerge it, start the service, point
your browser to https://localhost:10000/ and look under the Hardware
link on the left.  I can NOT say how stable this is or how well it
works.  I just installed it again myself.  I seem to recall it was not
maintained or something and got axed from portage.  No idea when it came
back or anything.  Just be careful until you can test it. 

Maybe someone will pop up with another GUI too.  Oh, it would be a good
idea to at least know the basics of the command line tools.  What if one
day your LVM fails and you don't have a GUI?  Just a thought.  ;-) 

Hope that helps. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] GUI for LVM?

[Bill Kenworthy]

On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 00:48 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> > Is there a GUI in portage for managing an LV?  Fedora etc have
> > system-config-lvm but I cant find anything for gentoo.
> >
> > (the commandline tools are good, but this is something where I want a
> > visual check before in case I am assuming something thats wrong).
> >
> > BillK
> >
> >
> 
> Well, webmin is back in portage.  There is also a new program called
> kvpm that is in a overlay, kde overlay I think.  No further info on that
> since I don't have it installed.  I just installed webmin and it is
> there so that may help you. 
> 
> If you go the webmin route, just emerge it, start the service, point
> your browser to https://localhost:10000/ and look under the Hardware
> link on the left.  I can NOT say how stable this is or how well it
> works.  I just installed it again myself.  I seem to recall it was not
> maintained or something and got axed from portage.  No idea when it came
> back or anything.  Just be careful until you can test it. 
> 
> Maybe someone will pop up with another GUI too.  Oh, it would be a good
> idea to at least know the basics of the command line tools.  What if one
> day your LVM fails and you don't have a GUI?  Just a thought.  ;-) 
> 
> Hope that helps. 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 

Thanks Dale ... surprised WebMin is back as its security history was so
dismal.

I have been using LVM on linux almost all my systems for years and LV on
older unix's before that - but I find the text tools can be confusing
and its too easy to make mistakes.  The visual tools give a much clearer
picture so mistakes are (hopefully) less likely.  From what I can see,
the GUI's are built on top of the cmdline tools anyway.

The pvmove is almost finished (nice it can be done online!) so two older
smaller disks can be removed, then the 2T drive moved to a new system
then I can start adding some other little bitty drives Ive been given
back into the LV (well, not the 60G :)

Dont you just love "Your systems are too old and unsupported so they
must be replaced (no, you cant keep that 2007 Sony Vaio, or that core2
duo as its over 3 years old).  Under the rules you can have a laptop,
but not a desktop however we have some old drives and 2 year old quad
core zeon laying around you can use.  And you can use your old drives if
you want.  "Use gentoo do you? - your on your own ..."

I am sure there is logic in there somewhere ... at least I am getting a
new macbook air out of it, as well as a ....load of extra work to do
moving things around :)

BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] GUI for LVM?

[Dale]

Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 00:48 -0500, Dale wrote:
>> Bill Kenworthy wrote:
>>> Is there a GUI in portage for managing an LV?  Fedora etc have
>>> system-config-lvm but I cant find anything for gentoo.
>>>
>>> (the commandline tools are good, but this is something where I want a
>>> visual check before in case I am assuming something thats wrong).
>>>
>>> BillK
>>>
>>>
>> Well, webmin is back in portage.  There is also a new program called
>> kvpm that is in a overlay, kde overlay I think.  No further info on that
>> since I don't have it installed.  I just installed webmin and it is
>> there so that may help you. 
>>
>> If you go the webmin route, just emerge it, start the service, point
>> your browser to https://localhost:10000/ and look under the Hardware
>> link on the left.  I can NOT say how stable this is or how well it
>> works.  I just installed it again myself.  I seem to recall it was not
>> maintained or something and got axed from portage.  No idea when it came
>> back or anything.  Just be careful until you can test it. 
>>
>> Maybe someone will pop up with another GUI too.  Oh, it would be a good
>> idea to at least know the basics of the command line tools.  What if one
>> day your LVM fails and you don't have a GUI?  Just a thought.  ;-) 
>>
>> Hope that helps. 
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
>>
> Thanks Dale ... surprised WebMin is back as its security history was so
> dismal.
>
> I have been using LVM on linux almost all my systems for years and LV on
> older unix's before that - but I find the text tools can be confusing
> and its too easy to make mistakes.  The visual tools give a much clearer
> picture so mistakes are (hopefully) less likely.  From what I can see,
> the GUI's are built on top of the cmdline tools anyway.
>
> The pvmove is almost finished (nice it can be done online!) so two older
> smaller disks can be removed, then the 2T drive moved to a new system
> then I can start adding some other little bitty drives Ive been given
> back into the LV (well, not the 60G :)
>
> Dont you just love "Your systems are too old and unsupported so they
> must be replaced (no, you cant keep that 2007 Sony Vaio, or that core2
> duo as its over 3 years old).  Under the rules you can have a laptop,
> but not a desktop however we have some old drives and 2 year old quad
> core zeon laying around you can use.  And you can use your old drives if
> you want.  "Use gentoo do you? - your on your own ..."
>
> I am sure there is logic in there somewhere ... at least I am getting a
> new macbook air out of it, as well as a ....load of extra work to do
> moving things around :)
>
> BillK
>
>

Well, I recently bought a new 3Tb drive to replace a 250G and a 750G
that was using LVM to make a 1Tb drive.  I have deleted the stuff and
was going to use webmin to create a LVM for backups, until I run out of
space at least.  I can't figure out how to create a pv in webmin tho. 
It looks like it is done in the vg section but not sure.  It's been a
long while since I even looked at webmin and IT HAS CHANGED. 

A while back I saw some info on the KDE version of LVM management.  The
screenshots looked pretty neat and it seems to be really nice.  The
Redhat toolbox looks nice too but I don't guess it will ever be on
Gentoo.  Anyway, my problem is remembering which comes first.  I try to
remember PVL.  Physical first, then volume and then logical.  Thing is,
webmin has it in a different order which makes me wonder.  :/  I'm sort
of getting used to this confusion.  lol 

Now to go study this some more.  O_O  2:00AM and I'm staring at a
screen.  Jeeez!

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] GUI for LVM?

[Bill Kenworthy]

On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 02:08 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 00:48 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >> Bill Kenworthy wrote:
...
> >>
> >> Dale
...
> Well, I recently bought a new 3Tb drive to replace a 250G and a 750G
> that was using LVM to make a 1Tb drive.  I have deleted the stuff and
> was going to use webmin to create a LVM for backups, until I run out of
> space at least.  I can't figure out how to create a pv in webmin tho. 
> It looks like it is done in the vg section but not sure.  It's been a
> long while since I even looked at webmin and IT HAS CHANGED. 
> 
> A while back I saw some info on the KDE version of LVM management.  The
> screenshots looked pretty neat and it seems to be really nice.  The
> Redhat toolbox looks nice too but I don't guess it will ever be on
> Gentoo.  Anyway, my problem is remembering which comes first.  I try to
> remember PVL.  Physical first, then volume and then logical.  Thing is,
> webmin has it in a different order which makes me wonder.  :/  I'm sort
> of getting used to this confusion.  lol 
> 
> Now to go study this some more.  O_O  2:00AM and I'm staring at a
> screen.  Jeeez!
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 

Doesn't look any better at 3.20pm in the afternoon either ... though at
least the sun is shining :)

BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] GUI for LVM?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 02:08:15 -0500, Dale wrote:

> A while back I saw some info on the KDE version of LVM management.  The
> screenshots looked pretty neat and it seems to be really nice.  The
> Redhat toolbox looks nice too but I don't guess it will ever be on
> Gentoo.

I'm sure the Red Hat tool was in portage at one time. I tried it some
years ago but was not impressed.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

A good pun is its own reword.

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Re: [gentoo-user] GUI for LVM?

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 02:08:15 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> A while back I saw some info on the KDE version of LVM management.  The
>> screenshots looked pretty neat and it seems to be really nice.  The
>> Redhat toolbox looks nice too but I don't guess it will ever be on
>> Gentoo.
> I'm sure the Red Hat tool was in portage at one time. I tried it some
> years ago but was not impressed.
>
>


Maybe it was like my ex.  It looked better than it turned out to be. 
LOL  I was just looking at some screenshots. 

I did get webmin to create my backup LVM tho.  It's a bit different but
it did work.  Making a backup now. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] GUI for LVM?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 04:43:31 -0500, Dale wrote:

> > I'm sure the Red Hat tool was in portage at one time. I tried it some
> > years ago but was not impressed.

> Maybe it was like my ex.  It looked better than it turned out to be. 

ROTFL


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Processor: (n.) a device for converting sense to nonsense at the speed
           of electricity, or (rarely) the reverse.

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