From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19DE1381F4 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:50:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E26721C02E; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-f53.google.com (mail-ee0-f53.google.com [74.125.83.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F3AE05FE for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eekc4 with SMTP id c4so984949eek.40 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:48:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=n9Q0I5GwstFJa7GTjxGdvcLQf978qYLSE5Fzl+fHJQ4=; b=M0ChecI4A0h2zyaNSOPbg9GfICxNwLLzSTz63smopMvCF0ajRKTZ01X9AeNluDd9KN dpqnPVGRI7I8gxPQrfSJ1E7ZSqNYO9v5wWNJjRIKbdmmhhsZuLOsncv1fVPhbDJtPo/F 02rq30aT2r1KdyiLbkY8R4pWuYq74K20jT3OoxyfPqkyCkaJ5Hi/iKsuvw5i7dnC/wNL ClMe4Pz9mY7bD/GoPD/WPzyVfJIeZFzHaUm9AGe0mA7yvGYn8HfErn9dgb057WQw+1Vn u/jiS2il7yNWejz0JO1ULk2Qis8KepUBbFNLI2PuBd/ujH/xmQV07jFmDoEQDBtMjuYv +9TQ== Received: by 10.14.223.72 with SMTP id u48mr10500818eep.37.1344872887850; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khamul.example.com (dustpuppy.is.co.za. [196.14.169.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u8sm19979704eel.11.2012.08.13.08.48.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:47:12 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2) Message-ID: <20120813174712.6569db3e@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20120810212213.0ce6e810@khamul.example.com> <20120813090643.3475957e@hactar.digimed.co.uk> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.11; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5bc1de70-a95d-447c-9f7c-d920e9624906 X-Archives-Hash: 6c04c792f9ae79e9965b7576446f3fe3 On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:17:23 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Neil Bothwick > wrote: > > > On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > > > > > > I have one of those. But I decided to stick with traditional DOS > > > > partitioning style and grub instead of GPT and grub2. > > > > > > I am leaning toward traditional partitioning, but with grub2. Do > > > those two not mix well? > > > > GRUB2 works fine with MBR partition tables. But if you're starting > > from scratch, you may as well use GPT and get rid of the legacy MBR > > limitations and fragility. > > > > I'm not dissing GPT...but what's fragile about MBR? it's 30 years old, only 4 primary partitions, only 16 extended partitions, it's got that weird DOS boot flag thing, it all has to fit in one sector. I had to fix a mispartitioned disk over the weekend, this really should have been a simple mv-type operation, but because all 4 primary partitions were in use I had to disable swap and use it as a leap-frog area. It felt like I was playing 15 pieces with the disk. That's fragile - not that the disk breaks, but that it breaks my ability to set the thing up easily. Basically, mbr was built to cater for the needs of DOS-3. In the meantime, 1982 called and they want their last 30 years back. Just because we can hack workarounds into it to get it to function doesn't mean we should continue to use it. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com