From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2935613800E for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C6E0E0552; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.muc.de (colin.muc.de [193.149.48.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED90CE0527 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 82088 invoked by uid 3782); 12 Aug 2012 12:29:38 -0000 Received: from acm.muc.de (pD951AB0B.dip.t-dialin.net [217.81.171.11]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:29:36 +0200 Received: (qmail 20356 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Aug 2012 12:25:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:25:35 +0000 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Straight from the horse's mouth Message-ID: <20120812122535.GB18333@acm.acm> References: <20120812095211.GA2435@waltdnes.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: Alan Mackenzie X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-Archives-Salt: ec35c2bb-4b7f-4fa7-91d5-20db457dfe01 X-Archives-Hash: 9b738d7b4ddd6f8f8b0073259c5e2228 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:30:51AM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html > > (Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case you > > haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward to the day when we can drop > > that support entirely.) > > Lennart > I would love to see the day when I could have a udev-free system, and leave > UDEV/Poetterix to the lennartings... > > Plan B... toot... (blowing my own horn) > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev > Walter, > I'm confused about the xorg stuff in the WiKi. It mentions the evdev driver as > critical, but at the Notes at the bottom you say "evdev need udev to be > built". Can you clarify this? For some X11 configs (notably mine) it was necessary explicitly to configure evdev in xorg.conf. This used to work with, e.g., Gnome2. At a later stage, evdev suddenly required the udev USE flag to build. :-( This was taken account of in part of the web page, but not in the xorg description (which is now wrong). The change to evdev prompted me to stop using an mdev system, since I anticipated not having enough time to keep it working. (New job, and such like). The way certain developers are trying to force the world and his dog to use a rigid Red Hat specified configuration, I might be changing my time priorities. > Thanks > Jorge Almeida -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).