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[217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g51sm2728769eea.14.2012.06.06.12.40.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Lockdown: free/open OS maker pays Microsoft ransom for the right to boot on users' computers Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:40:25 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.2.12-gentoo; KDE/4.8.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <1338603963.12172.1.camel@moriah> <CA+czFiA67N1gk7zyBXPkVU_8zRRyyaAYXk-rW67h2+na7tyAQw@mail.gmail.com> <1338945285.26651.2.camel@troll> In-Reply-To: <1338945285.26651.2.camel@troll> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3110856.3sh9IEjFKt"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201206062040.34175.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: d4d2716c-8599-4b1a-ada8-1e78bbd8c47f X-Archives-Hash: fc90935220f8c807ec6d5b833962741a --nextPart3110856.3sh9IEjFKt Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday 06 Jun 2012 02:14:45 Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 10:21 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Monday 04 Jun 2012 13:57:11 Michael Mol wrote: > > >> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wro= te: > > >> > On Saturday 02 Jun 2012 23:50:58 pk wrote: > > >> [snip] > > >>=20 > > >> >> I'm putting on my tinfoil hat now and I'm going to pretend it's > > >> >> raining... :-/ > > >> >=20 > > >> > Can I please join you if you have a spare hat? > > >> >=20 > > >> > On a 3 year old Dell laptop manufactured by the famous and well > > >> > known > > >> >=20 > > >> > Winbond Electronics </sarcasm> I see this under lshw: > > >> > *-remoteaccess UNCLAIMED > > >> > =20 > > >> > vendor: Intel > > >> > physical id: 2 > > >> > capabilities: outbound > > >> >=20 > > >> > but have not found a way of interrogating it or in anyway accessing > > >> > it to understand what it is or does ... > > >> >=20 > > >> >=20 > > >> > Note, this is not a UEFI machine: > > >> >=20 > > >> > capabilities: smbios-2.6 dmi-2.6 vsyscall32 > > >>=20 > > >> What proc? > > >=20 > > > If you mean what /proc is this remoteaccess thing in, I don't really > > > know. How can I find it? > >=20 > > Sorry...what CPU do you have? > >=20 > > cat /proc/cpuinfo >=20 > Maybe this? - > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Platform_Management_Interface >=20 > There is a kernel interface (under power management I think) and I seem > to remember some of my recent motherboards come with it. If you have a > dell, look up iDRECV which does something similar. Its not only the > cpu, but the motherboard you need to worry about. >=20 > BillK This is my CPU, a first generation i7: cat /proc/cpuinfo=20 processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 30 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz stepping : 5 microcode : 0x4 cpu MHz : 933.000 cache size : 6144 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 8 core id : 0 cpu cores : 4 apicid : 0 initial apicid : 0 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 11 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov=20 pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp= lm=20 constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc=20 aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm=20 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt lahf_lm ida dts tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid bogomips : 3192.11 clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: You note that "power management:" above is empty. grep-ping the /proc tree for remoteaccess does not bring up anything. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart3110856.3sh9IEjFKt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk/PsjIACgkQVTDTR3kpaLYmxwCcCK4svgVRCpODy3WLy/0UB1rt sWAAnRrEPYeA78vlxaQTGHcfF2Pzn5yj =xbsN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3110856.3sh9IEjFKt--