From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Sbn6F-0000Si-Fj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:18:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBEACE0BB5; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BB5E0BB4 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:16:36 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmIRAG6Zu09soXDw/2dsb2JhbABEgyoBnlaQdQMEgRSBCIIVAQEFOhwzCxgcAQYLFCUMKyCHYAMLugmKGm5agUSCPGIDjT6HXIVfhRmDIYFYgwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="189070416" Received: from 108-161-112-240.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([108.161.112.240]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with SMTP; 05 Jun 2012 02:16:34 -0400 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 05 Jun 2012 02:15:23 -0400 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 02:15:23 -0400 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Lockdown: free/open OS maker pays Microsoft ransom for the right to boot on users' computers Message-ID: <20120605061523.GA21359@waltdnes.org> References: <4FCA6EDB.4070908@coolmail.se> <4FCA98D2.7020804@coolmail.se> <4FCAB160.9040706@binarywings.net> <1338689084.67744.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1338816810.91572.YahooMailNeo@web39302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 029d7c2f-1fe5-4734-baf5-2aef51c5fbaa X-Archives-Hash: 25e1cde5c793abf214f80dbb3f5e7b86 On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 10:34:58AM -0400, Michael Mol wrote > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:33 AM, BRM wrote: > > > We'll see if SecureBoot actually even makes it to market; if it > > does, expect some Class Action lawsuits to occur. > > We'll see. Don't forget _you can turn the thing off_. I expect the > lawsuits will come around when the ability to turn the thing off or > reconfigure it is removed. The reason there is so much hate for TPM/Palladium/etc is that they're tied into failed legislation proposed by former South Carolina Senator Fritz Hollings. He was jokingly referred to as "the Democrat from Disney", because he seemed to spend more energy representing big media than the people of his state. Fire up Google and look up the terms... SSSCA CBDTPA "Fritz chip" This was intended to be draconian mandatory DRM on every PC. Importing or building one without it would result in five to twenty years in prison, and fines between $50,000 and $1 million. It would've effectively outlawed linux. MS is trying to use its corporate muscle to do via market manipulation what legislators couldn't. -- Walter Dnes