From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1STxb9-00030l-Bl for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 14 May 2012 15:54:11 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F15B3E08B5; Mon, 14 May 2012 15:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA6DE05A1 for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 15:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbuo19 with SMTP id uo19so9542255obb.40 for ; Mon, 14 May 2012 08:52:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=wPEb2HIahGAe8SYaHnvb7Ltg96ovyXdo4QunZyFWDyY=; b=0r0sIzotM8jZPzn/LBXJT38tylrn+iyNTsAo1aakeEdmiTGa0O2ymPkMS3Fp70HJdE c/ktHi5lIPQ0ZMe6BN0QVHKep0bssRXsgnuz7k3pVTIfQd40ElnlbEGg0/nMbbzGskjx RBWRLpIh1ZjXPoh1yqO5SGVwK/ByyN5OQpwj0t13COnxHf6KxEEpcuMp7ZTYav/bC1Oa +TvBDg5TFeFKqqJNqu5uMYXYxseYCT/+MJi7UXT7ysYKS8zEVwaca1aVDTeeec0qjZu6 3Z5MoKWtWKskj9VQJ4asGz4g2u/oJqFwknEc9CTw1aG5JsLizs4UCsCTbfuojv75i2XS BPpQ== Received: by 10.182.245.17 with SMTP id xk17mr12369179obc.66.1337010742399; Mon, 14 May 2012 08:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from badass.gateway.2wire.net (adsl-68-123-159-2.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net. [68.123.159.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ju5sm19517709obb.23.2012.05.14.08.52.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 May 2012 08:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 08:52:49 -0700 From: ny6p01@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails Message-ID: <20120514155248.GA2838@badass.gateway.2wire.net> References: <4FAA2F0D.8080900@gmail.com> <4FAA595A.4040202@libertytrek.org> <20120510162012.74db0575@unet.univie.ac.at> <20120514021324.GA26071@badass.gateway.2wire.net> <335395246A21454687CDAE9ED74902EB@mic2> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <335395246A21454687CDAE9ED74902EB@mic2> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: bc8b41db-4fb6-4d5c-90e3-9b54a92ae574 X-Archives-Hash: 01acb2b0cedd706856c4db9c11467ce6 On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 05:26:44PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > in my opinion it isn't. with top posting I see the newest message > immidiately, while otherwise I need page through sometimes > huge amounts of mostly obsolete comments. > where it's possible, I put my messages on top, and I've found > more than once forum-rules that require or at least recommend > top posting. > but I garantee that I will get flames, why I do this and urge me > to change my habits. > obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from > now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames. > > regards > > michael > > -- > Michael Scherer > Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie > email: michael.scherer@meduniwien.ac.at > phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, 14 May, 2012 04:13 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails > > > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > > > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:44:31AM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > > > >> regrettably no. at this point make (correctly) assumes that mounts.o > >> should have been built, but it didn't. > >> sorry for my delayed replay, I've tried I lot of possibilities, needless > >> to say without success. > >> > >> thanks > >> > >> michael > >> > >> -- > >> Michael Scherer > >> Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie > >> email: michael.scherer@meduniwien.ac.at > >> phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "walt" > >> To: > >> Sent: Saturday, 12 May, 2012 20:17 > >> Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails > >> > >> > >> > On 05/10/2012 07:20 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: > >> >> LD init/mounts.o > >> >> ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o > >> >> init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory > >> > > >> > Maybe that step is correct but it sure looks strange to me. Looks > >> > like 'ls' is being substituted for 'ld', maybe? Is that a cut-and- > >> > paste error? > > > > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php ******* Below are a set of rules by which you should try and abide whenever posting to a public area such as USENET or a mailing list. They are designed with one thing in mind: being polite to your fellow netizens. Failure to do so can make you look at best inconsiderate, if not plain stupid, or even lead more "seasoned" netizens to believe that you're trolling (deliberately stirring up a fuss in order to draw attention to yourself and/or start up a fight - or flamefest). In the long run you'll just get yourself PLONKED (added to people's killfiles so they no longer have to read what you have to say), which is fairly counter-productive if your intentions are worthy. You can avoid yourself this embarrassment (and everybody else's displeasure) by following the basic rules described here: ... 9. DO NOT TOP-POST and DO trim your replies!!! Top-posting is the annoying practice of replying to a message by typing your response above that to which you are responding. This is a _Bad Thing_ because your readers will have to scroll down and extract the essential of the existing thread in order to grasp the context of your reply, and then scroll back up again to read your reply. Posting a "me too" comment at the bottom of a 100+ line message is no better because people, have to scroll all the way down through 100+ lines they've already read in order to see your one-liner. One word comes to mind for that: frustrating. The generally accepted "right way" of doing things is called "inline posting", whereby you insert your comments straight after that on which you are commenting, having stripped unnecessary text from the original quoted text. The end result is something which makes much more sense because it reads like a conversation. ******** Remember, in a list, you are not only writing for the person who you are responding to. You are posting for whoever may be interested in the topic. While I appreciate that you may not benefit from top posting since you know the context, this is not true for someone who has linked to your message or who is reading it days, weeks or years later. :) Terry