From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1STfrS-00082s-Rf for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 13 May 2012 20:57:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 734C1E06CC; Sun, 13 May 2012 20:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2FAE066E for ; Sun, 13 May 2012 20:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn14 with SMTP id hn14so2958783wib.10 for ; Sun, 13 May 2012 13:56:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bIZvV/RdxDQuVa5H9Br0dzL9of1CtZp9ZyJYm8cNSSw=; b=gqytU7+83lUQKeRsjnXQz1JgEFNgNUXB71ipb590UfOhkDT98QP42PRTC7dF45tpXa wq3Zmn+L6qtQeb3jQFm7Pvpd08bKF61RNRH7ljzGGzEY2R9RsbbnrMhC5kns76qRD76f yo5/xdE55r2E+eN5oVtvw57qomOwHmUZ1+uXzFtmSB8RgnbTx96/p7AC3b8HlrvrJKiT bieh0FksSa6TiRXPgI1u9EVwph2tea++OtgmGqgfBcmDGzhrqqiN0O37dCryow8aqKSW WtIHfJO9McEjJMcb/Rym6RXksoKTDnc+5iMyfxd4seoT1KMvV1PgwpUuPjpZXnnx0uMn kq2Q== Received: by 10.180.77.4 with SMTP id o4mr13982718wiw.17.1336942570217; Sun, 13 May 2012 13:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-209-227-85.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.209.227.85]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ex2sm47119248wib.8.2012.05.13.13.56.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 May 2012 13:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 22:53:18 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of] Message-ID: <20120513225318.5ce27b9c@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20120216162948.7eea6070@weird.wonkology.org> <20120218180407.74055f5e@weird.wonkology.org> <20120218220521.1278e023@bluewin.ch> <1705219.vsiCQe2Sr8@weird> <20120507144134.4ea24fc3@weird.wonkology.org> <20120507231123.49125d30@weird.wonkology.org> <20120509214419.34d6bbe4@weird.wonkology.org> <20120512034046.35aae496@weird.wonkology.org> <20120512170512.4a90eab7@weird.wonkology.org> <20120513105606.4745860a@khamul.example.com> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2fd7a9db-446e-45c8-84d2-1eb4a5576f74 X-Archives-Hash: 2597e782c83b93dbc99e2e744f37fae5 On Sun, 13 May 2012 14:12:04 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > [1] .avi files are notorious for this shit. It's what happens when > > you are Microsoft and you release any old crappy format without > > consulting the other experts out there (who will always outnumber > > you) > > Which better container formats were available at the time AVI was > released (1992)? The only contemporary container format I'm aware of > is RIFF, which came out in 1988. MPEG-1 didn't come out until 1993, > which was the same year the Ogg project started. Real's stuff didn't > come out until 1995. Matroska was announced a decade later, in 2005. > > Matroska, MP4 and even OGG are nicer container formats, sure, but they > weren't around yet. And even with any of them, it's perfectly possible > to accidentally get A/V desync or stuttering if you don't mux your > streams properly. > > (This post draws heavily on Wikipedia for date information, and dates > may be considered only as accurate as Wikipedia...) > You missed the essence of my post entirely. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com