From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SDE5N-0002Sg-Qx for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:04:14 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFDF9E0A87; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from karnak.local (cpc2-lutn10-2-0-cust603.9-3.cable.virginmedia.com [81.97.90.92]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9254EE0A01 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by karnak.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8783003 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:01:58 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at local Received: from karnak.local ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (karnak.local [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L5bn1e6wG7K4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:01:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from abydos.local (abydos.local [192.168.0.3]) by karnak.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B35D3002 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:01:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from abydos.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abydos.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF88C184052 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:01:56 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:01:49 +0100 From: David W Noon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought Message-ID: <20120329130149.2b5d26ed@abydos.local> In-Reply-To: <20120329102836.3ea5e242@khamul.example.com> References: <1332844604.4130.0@numa-i> <4F71BE44.3080206@kutulu.org> <01de01cd0c26$98088c40$c819a4c0$@kutulu.org> <4F71E12F.7060108@gmail.com> <000901cd0c40$0a137520$1e3a5f60$@kutulu.org> <4F720751.3020900@gmail.com> <4F72149D.7060605@darkmetatron.de> <4F721D30.8090400@gmail.com> <4F722735.90500@gmail.com> <4F72348A.2060407@gmail.com> <20120327235215.7834f4c7@khamul.example.com> <4F723F01.4040904@gmail.com> <20120328012023.50434b55@karnak.local> <20120328234027.33766b9c@khamul.example.com> <20120328230124.057e1472@karnak.local> <20120329002640.11ecf6e5@khamul.example.com> <20120329002004.6a4506a5@karnak.local> <20120329102836.3ea5e242@khamul.example.com> Organization: Luton Operatic Society X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/TBwkua6XoJnV.RTb/Q61M_N"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 4fa452d4-6141-4457-b7b8-7f48b9f9bd3d X-Archives-Hash: 061dfe8e4aa167b0998f15f7ef934e73 --Sig_/TBwkua6XoJnV.RTb/Q61M_N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:28:36 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:20:04 +0100 > David W Noon wrote: [snip] > > The Gentoo developers have been discussing just that. The reason is > > that many of the daemons that can be started by udev scripts require > > work files on /var, so we could well need /var mounted too. >=20 > Which begs the obvious question, >=20 > Why on earth is udev launching daemons in EARLY BOOT? Your guess is as good as mine! At present, the first thing I see when udev starts is a failed attempt to run /usr/sbin/alsactl to restore the audio levels on my sound card. This occurs before localmount or any other services in the sysinit run-level have been started. Just why anybody wants sound before the disk volumes have been mounted baffles me; I guess people are just desperate for the comforts of stereo. Perhaps my mind simply lacks the sophistication to understand the design of udev. I guess I'll just stick to my 80-column Hollerith cards. ... :-) --=20 Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D dwnoon@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --Sig_/TBwkua6XoJnV.RTb/Q61M_N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk90TzQACgkQ9MqaUJQw2Mn0wQCeLaw6ca4jXGCpYwBptZ6s7tWy 9xQAnRSMGNJrMDJ9VZeJHI2o6MebQ/wH =Scah -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/TBwkua6XoJnV.RTb/Q61M_N--