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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:46:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120328004633.635b9c5c@khamul.example.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F723FAA.9090205@gmail.com>

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:31:06 -0500
Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:59:30 -0500
> > Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Mark Knecht wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote: <SNIP>
> >>>  Right now, my plan is to mask udev at what it is and either
> >>>> switch to another distro
> >>> <SNIP>
> >>>
> >>> Just remember, with distros it's the device you know for the devil
> >>> you don't know...
> >>>
> >>> I don't understand why any of this /usr /udev stuff is bothering
> >>> you. Do you really use a separate /usr? Aren't you on stable like
> >>> me or are you on ~amd64?
> >>>
> >>> Good luck. I'm positive you'll come to your senses about this
> >>> Ubuntu nonsense! ;-)))
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> My plan was to put / on ext4, /boot on ext2 and everything else on
> >> LVM. That would incluse /usr, /usr/portage, /var and /home.  I have
> >> not done that yet because doing it would force me to make a choice
> >> very soon since this mess is coming pretty soon.
> > 
> > That's easy to fix. It takes a while and it's mind-numbingly boring,
> > but it's easy.
> > 
> > All you need is a decent amount of free disk space as you will
> > shuffle things around just like in that 15 pieces game.
> > 
> > Assuming / is the first (or second) partition on a disk:
> > 
> > Measure how much data is on the file system.
> > Measure how much data is on the /usr file system.
> > Move partitions after / on the disk out of the way creating enough
> > free space to contain current / and /usr.
> > Enlarge / partition, enlarge the file system on it, copy contents
> > of /usr there.
> > Arrange the rest of your disk the way you want it (either with or
> > without LVM, both are easy enough to do).
> > Move the rest of your data back to it's final destination.
> > Delete any last remnants of the old /usr partition.
> > 
> > And all your worries about initramfs will go away. Trust me (no, not
> > because I sell used cars, but because I do this for a living and
> > have done it several times)
> > 
> 
> 
> Right now, I doubt my current / partition can hold all the /usr stuff.
> It would require a complete undoing then redoing, like you just laid
> out.  I have done this before but I would like to only have to do it
> once and be done.  That is why I want to use LVM for everything but /
> but if I could get this to work right, I wouldn't mind having / on LVM
> too.

/ on LVM isn't all that useful, simply because it's size doesn't change
much and there's no real need to grow it. It's not like /var.

Binary distros put LVm on / not because it's a good idea but because
they like to have consistency. You don't need that because you know
what you built and it doesn't need to be supported by a corporate
employee far away.

You are worrying yourself needlessly about this init thing.

Just take some small measures to ensure that it will never be a factor.



> Right now, I have very little confidence in this init thingy and me
> getting it to work much less able to fix it even it doesn't boot for
> some reason.
> 
> < sighs >
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 
> 



-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com




  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-27 22:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-27 10:36 [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought Helmut Jarausch
2012-03-27 13:19 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-27 13:30   ` Michael Mol
2012-03-27 14:04     ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-27 15:20       ` covici
2012-03-27 15:54         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-27 14:33     ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-27 15:47       ` Dale
2012-03-27 17:35         ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-27 18:30           ` Dale
2012-03-27 19:27             ` Sebastian Beßler
2012-03-27 20:04               ` Dale
2012-03-27 20:23                 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-27 20:46                   ` Dale
2012-03-27 21:08                     ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-27 21:43                       ` Dale
2012-03-27 21:52                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-27 22:28                           ` Dale
2012-03-28  0:20                             ` David W Noon
2012-03-28  1:36                               ` Dale
2012-03-28 21:40                               ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-28 22:01                                 ` David W Noon
2012-03-28 22:26                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-28 23:20                                     ` David W Noon
2012-03-29  2:24                                       ` Dale
2012-03-29  8:28                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-29 12:01                                         ` David W Noon
2012-03-29 20:58                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-29 21:20                                             ` pk
2012-05-19 13:33                                             ` Frank Steinmetzger
2012-03-29 23:26                                           ` wdk@moriah
2012-03-30 10:36                                             ` David W Noon
2012-03-29 12:05                                         ` [gentoo-user] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-03-29 13:00                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-29 20:55                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-29 22:10                                             ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-29 23:10                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-29 14:08                                       ` [gentoo-user] " Doug Hunley
2012-03-29 16:47                                         ` David W Noon
2012-03-27 22:02                         ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-27 22:35                           ` Dale
2012-03-27 22:49                             ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-29 13:59                               ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-29 17:36                                 ` Dale
2012-03-30  7:23                                 ` [gentoo-user] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-03-30  7:56                                   ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-27 23:04                         ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2012-03-27 23:47                           ` Dale
2012-03-28  7:51                             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-28  7:55                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-28 21:38                               ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-27 20:09             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-27 16:18     ` Michael Hampicke
2012-03-27 16:50       ` Michael Mol
2012-03-27 16:57       ` Dale
2012-03-27 17:09         ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-27 20:07           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-27 21:20             ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-27 21:38               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-27 20:36           ` Dale
2012-03-27 20:46             ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-27 21:59               ` Dale
2012-03-27 22:14                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-27 22:31                   ` Dale
2012-03-27 22:46                     ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2012-03-27 23:50                       ` Dale
2012-03-28  7:58                         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-28 18:29                           ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-28 21:58                             ` pk
2012-03-28 23:20                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-29 17:14                                 ` pk
2012-03-29 18:06                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-29 18:54                                     ` pk
2012-03-29  2:21                             ` Michael Mol
     [not found]                               ` <20120329100248.24ecb03c@digimed.co.uk>
2012-03-29 14:21                                 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-29 14:43                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-29 15:58                                     ` Michael Mol
2012-03-28 15:20                   ` Allan Gottlieb
2012-03-28 16:41                     ` Alex Schuster
2012-03-28 20:44                       ` Simon
2012-03-28 21:35                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-29  2:38                       ` Allan Gottlieb
2012-03-29  8:43                         ` Allan Gottlieb
2012-04-03 12:27                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-04-03 13:15                             ` Allan Gottlieb
2012-03-27 21:22             ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-27 22:01               ` Dale
2012-03-28  2:27       ` William Kenworthy
2012-03-28  5:46   ` du yang

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