From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SCf2h-0001n3-GI for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:39:07 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D3BEE09D8; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.muc.de (colin.muc.de [193.149.48.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97B8E0B25 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 39420 invoked by uid 3782); 27 Mar 2012 22:37:00 -0000 Received: from acm.muc.de (pD951AFEC.dip.t-dialin.net [217.81.175.236]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:36:58 +0200 Received: (qmail 3713 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Mar 2012 22:35:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:35:44 +0000 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs? Message-ID: <20120327223544.GC3437@acm.acm> References: <20120327133728.GA3754@acm.acm> <01c301cd0c22$2fac1300$8f043900$@kutulu.org> <20120327142646.GB3754@acm.acm> <20120327154620.21440f87@digimed.co.uk> <86iphq0vza.fsf@jane.chrekh.se> <003e01cd0c53$a2e99b90$e8bcd2b0$@kutulu.org> <20120327212422.GA3437@acm.acm> <20120327234819.45111444@khamul.example.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120327234819.45111444@khamul.example.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: Alan Mackenzie X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-Archives-Salt: 0bc3bdde-bc98-4249-b024-372ab1498b38 X-Archives-Hash: f9f76e11688171e18debe28ae6966173 Hi, Alan. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:48:19PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 +0000 > Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > That is precisely what the question was NOT about. The idea was to > > copy (not move) booting software to /sbin instead of an initramfs - > > the exact same programs, modulo noise - to have the SW in /sbin > > necessary to mount /usr. > Two words: > shared libraries > Copying binaries is not enough. You have to find and copy every shared > library those binaries use. Plus all the data and other files they > might need. > This is non-trivial. . It's equally non-trivial for initramfs, yet nobody seems to be raising this objection for that. Why is nobody else on this thread willing to take up its main point, the exact equivalence between the known, ugly, initramfs solution and the as yet half-baked idea of putting the same binaries into /sbin? > -- > Alan McKinnnon > alan.mckinnon@gmail.com -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).