From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-136856-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1SCeXE-0004W4-CN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:06:36 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 410C6E0AD2; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.muc.de (colin.muc.de [193.149.48.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4226E0A87 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 37354 invoked by uid 3782); 27 Mar 2012 22:02:44 -0000 Received: from acm.muc.de (pD951AFEC.dip.t-dialin.net [217.81.175.236]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:02:42 +0200 Received: (qmail 3611 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Mar 2012 22:01:28 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:01:28 +0000 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs? Message-ID: <20120327220128.GB3437@acm.acm> References: <20120327133728.GA3754@acm.acm> <01c301cd0c22$2fac1300$8f043900$@kutulu.org> <20120327142646.GB3754@acm.acm> <20120327154620.21440f87@digimed.co.uk> <86iphq0vza.fsf@jane.chrekh.se> <003e01cd0c53$a2e99b90$e8bcd2b0$@kutulu.org> <20120327212422.GA3437@acm.acm> <20120327224153.368e30b5@digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120327224153.368e30b5@digimed.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-Archives-Salt: 2d04526f-31c3-41ba-abe3-583468ab5fb3 X-Archives-Hash: 4ba2515a1a1fb3d3bab3aaa9825cd293 Hello, Neil. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:41:53PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > That is precisely what the question was NOT about. The idea was to copy > > (not move) booting software to /sbin instead of an initramfs - the exact > > same programs, modulo noise - to have the SW in /sbin necessary to mount > > /usr. > Your package manager only knows about the copy in the original location. So? The same applies to a copy in the initramfs. > When you update you'll have multiple versions of the same program or > library in your path. Well, with the manual/script copying which needs doing either for /sbin or initramfs, that will be several copies of a program, not several versions. I'm still trying to see the reason why an /sbin with the same contents as a putative initramfs won't work. > -- > Neil Bothwick -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).