From: "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:55:09 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120321225509.GA18601@waltdnes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+czFiDufGFsexobFn9WxM_iCn2HXN1hrqTLEr6AedcUDs43XQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:02:32PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote
> I said this before, but it sounds useful to try to reiterate:
>
> * It's probable that service-specific files should not be included in
> the init system package.
> * Service-specific init files should probably be part of the
> distro-localized version of a service-providing package.
>
> This doesn't mean modifying binaries, this is part of bootstrapping a
> service's environment. Call it "deferred installation stages", if you
> like; things which need to be done for the service to be configured
> and properly operate.
My point is that the startup, sanity-checking, and initialization code
has to go *SOMEWHERE*. Where do you propose moving it to? This
discussion reminds me of an ethnic joke. A bunch of workers had dug out
a hole for the basement and foundations where a new house was to be
built. The workers ask their foreman what they should do with the pile
of dirt they had from digging out the hole for the new house. Their
foreman, who is ____________ tells them to go dig another hole in the
ground and throw the dirt in there. <G>
--
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
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2012-03-17 4:11 [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way! Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-17 4:19 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-17 4:37 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-17 4:53 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-17 5:19 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-17 6:25 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-03-17 11:53 ` [gentoo-user] systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ] Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-18 0:48 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-03-18 1:45 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18 2:12 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2012-03-18 2:41 ` Joshua Murphy
2012-03-18 2:52 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-18 2:20 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-18 2:30 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18 3:02 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 3:27 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18 8:02 ` Graham Murray
2012-03-18 8:49 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18 11:23 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-18 19:25 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18 19:48 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-18 19:54 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18 19:59 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2012-03-19 13:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 13:57 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-18 13:15 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18 13:56 ` Dale
2012-03-18 22:23 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-18 22:35 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-19 22:58 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-19 23:18 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-21 4:40 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-21 14:29 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-21 16:02 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-21 22:55 ` Walter Dnes [this message]
2012-03-22 1:35 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-22 21:13 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-22 22:07 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-23 1:27 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-29 6:52 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-19 13:30 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-18 2:48 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 2:57 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18 4:17 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 7:28 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-19 13:20 ` Eliezer Croitoru
2012-03-19 13:49 ` Alex Schuster
2012-03-19 13:13 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 14:33 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-19 23:11 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-17 8:00 ` [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way! Andrea Conti
2012-03-17 12:03 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-19 13:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 13:27 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-19 23:04 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-19 23:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 23:49 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-20 1:13 ` wdk@moriah
2012-03-20 8:41 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-17 11:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-17 12:05 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-17 12:50 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-17 12:54 ` Eliezer Croitoru
2012-03-17 14:03 ` Peter Humphrey
2012-03-18 9:52 ` Dale
2012-03-18 18:01 ` Eliezer Croitoru
2012-03-18 20:39 ` Dale
2012-03-18 22:28 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-19 0:30 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-19 2:03 ` William Kenworthy
2012-03-19 13:40 ` Eliezer Croitoru
2012-03-19 13:56 ` Alex Schuster
2012-03-29 9:35 ` [gentoo-user] chicken/eff issue with suspend-to-disk/hibernate problem [Was: The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!] J. Roeleveld
2012-03-29 10:40 ` wdk@moriah
2012-03-29 13:51 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-29 14:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-29 23:05 ` wdk@moriah
2012-03-18 17:30 ` [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way! Tanstaafl
2012-03-17 14:08 ` Jarry
2012-03-19 13:25 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-17 15:10 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-17 17:36 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-17 17:58 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-17 18:38 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-03-17 19:40 ` pk
2012-03-17 20:09 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-03-17 20:28 ` pk
2012-03-18 9:51 ` Dale
2012-03-18 13:03 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18 13:52 ` Dale
2012-03-19 13:22 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-18 11:44 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-03-17 20:15 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18 0:43 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-18 2:18 ` William Kenworthy
2012-03-18 3:57 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 6:30 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-18 7:26 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 7:54 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-18 12:01 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 12:47 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-03-18 13:23 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 14:08 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-03-18 13:29 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-18 17:38 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-29 9:48 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-18 13:27 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-17 23:02 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2012-03-18 8:16 ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2012-03-19 9:48 ` Helmut Jarausch
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