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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 01:04:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120320010404.3014fd68@khamul.example.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120319131701.3ba79187@digimed.co.uk>

On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:17:01 +0000
Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:00:37 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote:
> 
> > Personally I stopped bothering with a separate /usr ages ago, so I
> > don't really care.
> 
> Having given this some thought recently, I am coming round to the view
> that the problem is /usr itself. It may have had a place when boot
> disks were limited in size, but I really don't see the point it in at
> all nowadays. This whole question of which bin directory does code
> belong in should be "why do we need so many bin directories"?
> 
> 

There are some separations that do make sense in a Unix context:

- */bin vs */sbin is one. Nothing to do with security, but */sbin can
  go in root's PATH and apps that only makes sense when run as root (eg
  mkfs) go there. This avoids cluttering the display with useful crap
  from tab-completion.

- / vs /usr/local. I like this one, everything I build and install
  myself without help from the package manager goes here. On FreeBSD it
  means I used ports to install the stuff and it's not in world. I do
  need this distinction in my world. Perl CPAN too for the same reasons.

- /opt. Um yeah, OK. So we have these things called proprietary apps
  where devs just want to make a directory specially for their app and
  dump everything belong it. OK, as a scheme, it works. I don't like
  it but I don't have a better idea.

/ vs /usr is the only one I don't need myself, as /usr is not read-only
(a very valid use case) and I don't have thin clients on the network.

-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com




  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-19 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-17  4:11 [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way! Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-17  4:19 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-17  4:37   ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-17  4:53     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-17  5:19 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-17  6:25 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-03-17 11:53   ` [gentoo-user] systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ] Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-18  0:48     ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-03-18  1:45       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18  2:12         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2012-03-18  2:41           ` Joshua Murphy
2012-03-18  2:52             ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-18  2:20         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-18  2:30           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18  3:02         ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18  3:27           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18  8:02         ` Graham Murray
2012-03-18  8:49           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18 11:23             ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-18 19:25               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18 19:48                 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-18 19:54                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18 19:59                 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2012-03-19 13:33             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 13:57               ` Michael Mol
2012-03-18 13:15         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18 13:56           ` Dale
2012-03-18 22:23           ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-18 22:35             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-19 22:58               ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-19 23:18                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-21  4:40                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-21 14:29                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-21 16:02                       ` Michael Mol
2012-03-21 22:55                         ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-22  1:35                           ` Michael Mol
2012-03-22 21:13                             ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-22 22:07                               ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-23  1:27                               ` Michael Mol
2012-03-29  6:52                           ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-19 13:30         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-18  2:48       ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18  2:57         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18  4:17           ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18  7:28             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-19 13:20               ` Eliezer Croitoru
2012-03-19 13:49                 ` Alex Schuster
2012-03-19 13:13         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 14:33           ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-19 23:11             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-17  8:00 ` [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way! Andrea Conti
2012-03-17 12:03   ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-19 13:17   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 13:27     ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-19 23:04     ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2012-03-19 23:33       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 23:49         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-20  1:13           ` wdk@moriah
2012-03-20  8:41             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-17 11:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-17 12:05   ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-17 12:50 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-17 12:54   ` Eliezer Croitoru
2012-03-17 14:03     ` Peter Humphrey
2012-03-18  9:52       ` Dale
2012-03-18 18:01         ` Eliezer Croitoru
2012-03-18 20:39           ` Dale
2012-03-18 22:28             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-19  0:30               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-19  2:03                 ` William Kenworthy
2012-03-19 13:40                   ` Eliezer Croitoru
2012-03-19 13:56                   ` Alex Schuster
2012-03-29  9:35                     ` [gentoo-user] chicken/eff issue with suspend-to-disk/hibernate problem [Was: The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!] J. Roeleveld
2012-03-29 10:40                       ` wdk@moriah
2012-03-29 13:51                         ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-29 14:04                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-29 23:05                             ` wdk@moriah
2012-03-18 17:30     ` [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way! Tanstaafl
2012-03-17 14:08   ` Jarry
2012-03-19 13:25   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-17 15:10 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-17 17:36   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-17 17:58     ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-17 18:38   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-03-17 19:40     ` pk
2012-03-17 20:09       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-03-17 20:28         ` pk
2012-03-18  9:51           ` Dale
2012-03-18 13:03             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18 13:52               ` Dale
2012-03-19 13:22         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-18 11:44       ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-03-17 20:15   ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18  0:43     ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-18  2:18       ` William Kenworthy
2012-03-18  3:57       ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18  6:30         ` Michael Mol
2012-03-18  7:26           ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18  7:54             ` Michael Mol
2012-03-18 12:01               ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 12:47                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-03-18 13:23                   ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 14:08                     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-03-18 13:29           ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-18 17:38             ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-29  9:48           ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-18 13:27         ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-17 23:02   ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2012-03-18  8:16 ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2012-03-19  9:48 ` Helmut Jarausch

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