From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S9Odt-0002Tt-FH for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2012 22:32:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 228E9E0C24; Sun, 18 Mar 2012 22:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455EFE0BDE for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2012 22:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr17 with SMTP id hr17so2744148wib.10 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:29:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=C4QxozYphJMK3nBchYmoPfAGPelzrCQCeE1Fr8oELrU=; b=k0t5yc4K/Bl2v6BGM5kO/9kx1a4OTuGRl+oSsp6tgPB/GYoUFY56msip2CUq5FSdQV nf+gI+cloARTX24ap6bYzU3qKcWlXn2VoygljNYnAhQAyYymZhKF43Qb+QWN0oKSjkV5 e2P+RbNqKGm5e4WeCEjBp8ZkFiBwJj8zQopYLi216PjjStk3yRHBJHS670TSS7JghB17 Xi8WD/5detMcCDsR0QHfi53vlky/g5dxt5SKHWfImVrruRKcJcYAQcq/9bK/y/7dJtLW /JsBCNxUnrUngyp6A+hT8sQkCV6uLsRkrfZbG1NFOnD0bIhLINqMCSXXRkmvO2kZhS3S feCg== Received: by 10.180.91.10 with SMTP id ca10mr14803064wib.17.1332109749570; Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-215-69-205.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.69.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fl2sm32829391wib.4.2012.03.18.15.29.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 00:28:14 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: rdalek1967@gmail.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way! Message-ID: <20120319002814.6d51d1c5@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <4F66481F.60904@gmail.com> References: <709768995.843751.1331957483491.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> <4F648894.8040908@libertytrek.org> <4F64899D.8070507@ngtech.co.il> <201203171403.36327.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> <4F65B041.4060900@gmail.com> <4F6622FF.8050402@ngtech.co.il> <4F66481F.60904@gmail.com> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1afa6e30-d40e-4c7f-a63d-1850f73c8ec3 X-Archives-Hash: a37e1d47fd0dc444a77e8902353d66a5 On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:39:59 -0500 Dale wrote: > Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > > On 18/03/2012 11:52, Dale wrote: > >> Peter Humphrey wrote: > >>> On Saturday 17 March 2012 12:54:53 Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > >>> > >>>> genkernel is pretty simple to use if you ask me. > >>>> just > >>>> > >>>> emerege genkernel > >>>> > >>>> and then use > >>>> > >>>> genkerenl --menuconfig all > >>>> > >>>> it will do everything for you the same as in a regular kernel > >>>> compiling. > >>>> > >>>> you have instructions on how to use genkernel on the handbook. > >>> > >>> What's more, you don't have to keep going through menuconfig if > >>> you already have a running self-compiled kernel. Just copy > >>> the .config file to > >>> somewhere safe (I use, e.g. /boot/config-3.2) and call genkernel > >>> with the > >>> option to specify the config file it's to use. Sorry but I can't > >>> tell you > >>> exactly what the parameter is as I don't have genkernel on this > >>> box. Someone will be along in a moment though. > >>> > >> > >> > >> I used genkernel when I was first installing Gentoo. I let that > >> thing build half a dozen kernels, chroot in between too. You know > >> what, not one of them worked. That was a long time ago but let me > >> check something here.< spit spit spit> I had to get the bad > >> taste out of my mouth. lol > >> > >> I might also add, I started using a init thingy a few weeks ago, > >> dracut tool. For some crazy reason, when I boot with the init > >> thingy, my system doesn't work right. When I boot without the > >> init thingy, it works fine. Still trying to figure out that one. > >> It's in another thread. > >> > >> I don't see myself using genkernel any time soon. Right now, I'm > >> having flashbacks to hal with regard to dracut and the whole init > >> thingy /usr mess. > > i have used genkernel for a long time and all of my genkernel > > compilation works really good. > > i have (counting, 1 very very big production server, 2 small > > production server, 3 home server, 4 +5 +6 + 7 +8 of vms runing > > genkernel with several services such as mail mail filtering web > > server and monitoring) so what can i say? all these machines will > > say other then you. > > > > Regards, > > Eliezer > > > >> > >> Dale > >> > >> :-) :-) > >> > > Odd, it can work on all those yet fail on a relatively simple system. > Makes one wonder. Maybe it is to complicated? Sort of starting to > sound like udev isn't it? lol > > I didn't say it would fail for the OP. I just said it never worked > for me. Compiling my own has worked for me. I have only had one > failure with that. I might also add, I have read where others have > nightmares about genkernel. I'm not the only one. And using genkernel is pretty fucking pointless while it doesn't support suspend/resume right. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, I don;t use genkernel so don;t know the truth from experience. I only read what others say, claiming that genkernel doesn't support suspend/resume. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com