From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S8uXC-0005Xk-Ka for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:23:07 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B97AE08C2; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC84BE07F2 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr17 with SMTP id hr17so1836217wib.10 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:21:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UJo/BTTbAuX/b1TCdlod5nd2MDNUuSFVC9BtWoAQ8p0=; b=NJI2tjzSpACJB27oRYtDrFnuPhRaiM6dVgOrHOqiqKksFatrYPnOlTO5vX14Qr5xc5 bXHSCsyW6wA/1cTcnnT2u5alNDHDViif26Yy7gmOCg4A2SgALGZ1oGF4S3WpNKdMY9dP k1GG1fD7hCK5LDI4DZ2QJ/j4B7hAO0ivMsYNFl1HDoS6eC3P85TpYaC5g0g/PcCXQeiP h6yG00kaZ8WnTOvO+mIGHAZuhSD5H4qbPzp5Hr+zpmt1VSkO/ORhqWVlJTb54RH+G82k qvuTvnsaTk8XvdyeDcwaKvln/dpA8/0WN0kaPyqRLbpnn9VVq6ZqMPHbm9DpTxe4Lpxg J/3Q== Received: by 10.180.102.129 with SMTP id fo1mr6586271wib.6.1331994098989; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-215-69-205.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.69.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k6sm8074207wie.9.2012.03.17.07.21.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:20:44 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-( Message-ID: <20120317162044.0210aa13@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20120313130534.GB3457@acm.acm> <20120313190052.GA2430@waltdnes.org> <20120313194727.GB2536@acm.acm> <20120313210737.GD2536@acm.acm> <20120313213330.78c5ebf7@digimed.co.uk> <20120313222019.GE2536@acm.acm> <20120313230358.GF2536@acm.acm> <20120314151620.GB24395@acm.acm> <1652184384.843910.1331958018059.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: c0a3ebd7-95c0-4802-a5b8-7b9f52ec5c7a X-Archives-Hash: 9d80877c62512b5bf00dbe599187c1c2 On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:27:02 -0600 Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. > wrote: > > > > > > > > On March 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM "Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s" > > wrote: > > > > > >> Alan, the "vast majority" of Linux users right now are phone users. > > > >> At least, that's how I see it. > > > >> Again, think about phones. And tablets. And TVs. And > >> [insert-here-cool-gadgets-from-the-future]. > > > >> Right now Linux runs in my phone, my TV's, my routers and every > >> computer I own. I have a couple of Windows installations, which I > >> use once or twice every three months (I ported a PyGTK program to > >> Windows last week, so I had to boot into Windows for the first > >> time this year). I want Linux running on *everything*, and what is > >> more: I don't want android in my handhelds, I want the full GNOME > >> experience. > > > >> Regards. > >> -- > > > > What phone do you have running which "Linux"? > > > > I'm curious because a couple months ago we got new Samsung Galaxy S > > phones. > > > > I'd previously used an iPhone 3GS for a bit over a year. Since I > > can't stand Apple, as a company, it was with great joy that we > > could get 2 of these Galaxy S phones for free (with the 2-year > > contract, of course). >=20 > Sony XPeria Play, with Android 2.3.3, I believe. Android !=3D Linux (in context of userspace) To get a phone shipped with a running Linux (in the usual definition of Linux, not Richard Stallman's) you need that Nokia one that will never again see the light of day. Or root your Sony and stick Debian on it. Being a Sony device, that might be hard. --=20 Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com