From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-136314-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1S7pQy-0007m8-Jd for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:44:12 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0E6DE0900; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.muc.de (colin.muc.de [193.149.48.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411DCE08DC for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 46395 invoked by uid 3782); 14 Mar 2012 14:42:24 -0000 Received: from acm.muc.de (pD951AD60.dip.t-dialin.net [217.81.173.96]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:42:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 24419 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Mar 2012 14:41:25 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:41:25 +0000 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts. Message-ID: <20120314144125.GA24395@acm.acm> References: <4F5BBE7A.8040802@coolmail.se> <CADPrc83RO5rE0j8cZtkFK32TzQc4Fg2=oHMGj+5XbZ-fec-_Wg@mail.gmail.com> <4F5C724C.1010708@coolmail.se> <CAMgZwF3aHqhqgJZKV6eBWEfLP83mPKS4nPAuLQGJ-mERyAMn=Q@mail.gmail.com> <jjj3n3$sen$1@dough.gmane.org> <CAMgZwF2PUjug-Uxmf0YKGvtJVMCTC9zXm4S3vzudS5NzE1xNZg@mail.gmail.com> <CA+czFiDxEWmvXjsvi0ViTd3teVYjFC633m4MN1eNDV=5O2DmwQ@mail.gmail.com> <292166434.606817.1331577566543.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> <4F5E853F.8060404@gmail.com> <20120313080946.GA1197@waltdnes.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120313080946.GA1197@waltdnes.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-Archives-Salt: 551dedf5-b2b7-4b3c-9bb5-bf79e6695d88 X-Archives-Hash: 4eae3b3b5398fdeb539ff01523885bdf Hi, Walter. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 04:09:46AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:22:39PM -0500, Dale wrote > > I think mdev has shown it can be fixed. Given time, it just may replace > > udev then the udev dev can screw up his own stuff on not bother other > > distros. I'm giving mdev some thought here. I want /usr on LVM which > > means it has to be separate. > Sorry, in lste-breaking news, it looks like udev is a mandatory > dependancy for lvm2. No udev ==> No lvm2 I can mount and use my lvm2 partitions under mdev. As I said, I don't yet know whether lvm2's full functionality is available. I suspect there'll be quite a few packages which list udev as a dependency, yet work well enough under mdev. > Can you run a test for me? What happens when you... > 1) insert the line > sys-fs/udev > into /etc/portage/package.mask > 2) execute "emerge -pv system" > 3) execute "emerge -pv world" > 4) Remember to remove the "sys-fs/udev" line from package.mask<G> > I expect that you should get an error message about not being able to > emerge lvm2 due to udev being masked. This is something I intend to add > to the instructions, so people can check ahead of time whether their > particular setup is able to run without udev. The solution to this, ugly though it might be, is to leave udev in the system so as to allow these other packages to be merged. > -- > Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).