From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S7VAz-00076i-TC for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:06:24 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFF5CE0AB6; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E721CE0AAD for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF251B405D for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:05:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.516 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.516 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.605, BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s4A8523n_NYg for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 813AB1B402F for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S7V9c-0000zr-9Q for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:04:56 +0100 Received: from wsip-174-76-82-7.no.no.cox.net ([174.76.82.7]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:04:56 +0100 Received: from boxcars by wsip-174-76-82-7.no.no.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:04:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: virtual/shadow Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:04:46 -0500 Organization: none Message-ID: <20120313110446.67a726b2@fuchsia.remarqs.net> References: <1669924605.604523.1331575521916.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> <20120312222910.063104c6@khamul.example.com> <20120312173416.06817095@fuchsia.remarqs.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: wsip-174-76-82-7.no.no.cox.net X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.8; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Archives-Salt: 39906154-4bc4-4df0-a4ca-b1578220f670 X-Archives-Hash: 6623750d541bc3db663d867ad22df6a1 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 01:54:30 +0200 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 13/03/12 00:34, =C2=BBQ=C2=AB wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:29:10 +0200 > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > =20 > >> Anyone care to offer an opinion on what it will take to get > >> PROVIDES support in portage? =20 > > > > IMO, it would take virtuals causing so many headachy breakages that > > some devs started keeping up a steady drumbeat on irc and mailing > > lists. When the number of virtual packages gets close to a > > thousand, I'd guess that might happen. Then there would be years > > of discussion and GLEP proposals, and by EAPI 207 it should be > > done. =20 >=20 > The problem isn't the amount of virtuals. This doesn't affect the > users much.=20 I expect more virtuals will mean more bugs affecting users. I don't know how hairy they will be, but here's one ugly example: . It's unresolved, but less has been added back to @system so stage 3 tarballs aren't broken for now. (I guess this could have happened with provides as well.) > It's the inability for people to offer replacement > packages in overlays. Yeah, I see.