From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S6oTB-0001oZ-Ef for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:30:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA9F4E08C7; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BF6E093E for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:29:00 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AokGAKU/KE9FpZT2/2dsb2JhbACBX48mjVV5iHCeGYYZBJROhkuECQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,1,1325480400"; d="scan'208";a="167437756" Received: from 69-165-148-246.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([69.165.148.246]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2012 15:28:58 -0400 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:28:30 -0400 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:28:30 -0400 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 Message-ID: <20120311192830.GA25554@waltdnes.org> References: <20111115062115.GA3262@waltdnes.org> <20111121104724.GC7461@waltdnes.org> <20111201194544.GD4455@waltdnes.org> <20120217234045.GA25390@waltdnes.org> <20120311090912.GA23850@waltdnes.org> <499847436.525568.1331465225324.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <499847436.525568.1331465225324.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: ff67b078-8878-4f54-bc52-4eb960287b72 X-Archives-Hash: ac19df5118686be8151bd298870f8d5c On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 07:27:05AM -0400, Daddy wrote > Having personally long considered Lennart Poettering a 'spawn of > the devil' my question is ... is this your reaction to systemd? It's my reaction to the "Windows-isation" and "Firefox-isation" of linux. So far I've managed to keep systemd and hal and dbus and pulseaudio off my machines. I agree with Linus Torvalds that linux is getting bloated and huge and scary... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/22/linus_torvalds_linux_bloated_huge/ > One minor typo to point out: > > /atc/portage/package.mask should be /etc/portage/package.mask Thanks; fixed now. > I just joined this list last week, but might consider sacrificing > some hardware to join your endeavor if you need more testers. I have a couple of regular desktops here at home, and a desktop dedicted to my TV, plus a netbook, and a laptop. So far, I've run into only one situation where laziness on my part ends up requiring udev. The laptop has an ATI Radeon chip that requires emerging radeon-ucode. That ebuild simply dumps a bunch of binary blobs into a library folder. The kernel loads one of the binary blobs at bootup. Radeon-ucode has blobs for 2 or 3 dozen differnt Radeon GPU models. If I leave all the binary blobs in the library folder, the kernel needs udev to figure out which blob to load. But, if I leave only the correct blob for my GPU in the library folder (move/delete all the others), it loads properly without any help from udev. -- Walter Dnes