From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S31NK-0007pz-St for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 08:28:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9435DE0874; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 08:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1153CE0863 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 08:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdq12 with SMTP id dq12so249222wgb.10 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 00:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alan.mckinnon@gmail.com designates 10.180.99.100 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.99.100; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alan.mckinnon@gmail.com designates 10.180.99.100 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alan.mckinnon@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alan.mckinnon@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.99.100]) by 10.180.99.100 with SMTP id ep4mr8163642wib.7.1330590437345 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 01 Mar 2012 00:27:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=REq5iPFAsxD+iPBSfEPbMpx5UKpzzu0+ms3jatSyUi0=; b=tzjNi9ECl+RluWKXjEyiWwJD7TKB8Q4bow3UTISuLy1PFmSL37ZDWyYtu/OpSOWMyR RcfcbAudebGSWR5jKbzkfsiri1U1ReDik/MsG1qS5BbDi1puC/EJR3diIo4WnLD9jI32 t+R3qHuPlJXj9oMlp+thTV8yIUbBJPWev4iao= Received: by 10.180.99.100 with SMTP id ep4mr6524729wib.7.1330590437299; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 00:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-215-57-8.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.57.8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fb2sm7798811wid.3.2012.03.01.00.27.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 01 Mar 2012 00:27:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 10:26:54 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Freeing up disk space problem!! Message-ID: <20120301102654.682e5041@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <20120301010904.GB6178@eisen.lan> References: <20120228140150.2b35b864@weird.wonkology.org> <4F4D75F5.20603@gmail.com> <20120229020141.0417c547@weird.wonkology.org> <4F4D8F95.7050307@gmail.com> <20120229061705.6389a386@digimed.co.uk> <4F4DCF4D.4090608@gmail.com> <20120229112311.7b70ab0d@khamul.example.com> <20120301010904.GB6178@eisen.lan> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 8ce21118-b795-48fa-ad92-e86af4d1e41f X-Archives-Hash: be20762f1f95ec7b432ea86e89533a1c On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 02:09:04 +0100 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Disk manufacturers measure kilos of data as 1000 > > Everyone else measures it in 1024 =20 >=20 > Well, to nitpick, they say it correctly, as for their "kilo", 10^3 > bytes is correct. We, the binary folk, assert kilo to be 2^10 bytes > which is actually called kibi, but we still use "kilo" in our > everyday language thanks to historical ballast (and because, as I > recently heard, the -bi units aren't around that long yet). First > time I heard of them was in uni lecture ~2003=B11. Yeah, I know the reasoning they use. But the entire world and everyone in it intuitively expects disk capacity to be measured in units of 2^X Especially as the disk manufacturers themselves make their disks to have allocation unit like 512, 1024 and 4096 bytes, not 500, 1000 and 4000 --=20 Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com