From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-135559-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1S1WmA-0006VP-0P for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 05:36:02 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60FEFE096E; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 05:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE54E0966 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 05:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werp13 with SMTP id p13so2600329wer.40 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alan.mckinnon@gmail.com designates 10.180.84.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.84.170; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alan.mckinnon@gmail.com designates 10.180.84.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alan.mckinnon@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alan.mckinnon@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.84.170]) by 10.180.84.170 with SMTP id a10mr8281876wiz.9.1330234427525 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:33:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AzDb6lyI3jtOFX8+HabnpUOrqAtXxaBaZELF/nj0FXA=; b=mEjmOzkZQLIwOJDBC8Bgo7hRZs6+SewuiBnQop9o0aR7LDBeXxPiNGAPEqfjIG6AZh Npc/pztgO6m6JpxqgO490xKQbNpXpbrgspXC6w0yVGUb4mlR5zgk8AiIrVH77hmEVXf1 31PTMHiWMnuh5uxGNa8Q0jMeVS4YQ7SjVfMwY= Received: by 10.180.84.170 with SMTP id a10mr6536217wiz.9.1330234427443; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-215-91-131.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.91.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bg3sm13434864wib.10.2012.02.25.21.33.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:33:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 07:33:31 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel? Message-ID: <20120226073331.434df181@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <CAA2qdGWzU_uosN=fSNjW2Zi4Zd2DWhdwm9zrWj-9FN2wT3gDXw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAN0CFw1msVnW-o4fxw8tjk+MMbHjHfLNb-HLr77jqbo++=j2Mg@mail.gmail.com> <ji9flq$qg$1@dough.gmane.org> <CAN0CFw1Lkr+KJeO5kfoMncuq3wqHhUnBy-vePXzYddOmDT35rA@mail.gmail.com> <20120225095751.7ad3d9d6@gmail.com> <CAN0CFw01xuBS0z9xF70JDnz4iBRK=bo8GZacMWZ+CrnN3tm6XA@mail.gmail.com> <20120225200305.2e9ae382@gmail.com> <CAA2qdGWzU_uosN=fSNjW2Zi4Zd2DWhdwm9zrWj-9FN2wT3gDXw@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 0138df1c-4b9e-47f6-8417-0b84846b7b88 X-Archives-Hash: cb60724b19908e9cba3e66e933c7bb75 On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 02:50:46 +0700 Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote: > So, as you can see, binary distros can still fuck up royal time. Not > to mention that if you have an exotic configuration, support for your > configuration might not be built into the kernel by the distro. > > Somehow I believe people deploying Gentoo servers will be much more > careful... > Oh, the people who deploy Gentoo are certainly that careful. It's the junior admins who type "emerge world" and walk away that aren't up to the task. I sadly had to ban Gentoo on production at work for that reason, but it's still highly recommended for -dev and -stage machines. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com