From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S0WpE-0007Pl-AT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:27:04 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 643AEE0C84; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB8DE0C5C for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhi8 with SMTP id hi8so764210wib.40 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 03:25:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alan.mckinnon@gmail.com designates 10.180.99.65 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.99.65; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alan.mckinnon@gmail.com designates 10.180.99.65 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alan.mckinnon@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alan.mckinnon@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.99.65]) by 10.180.99.65 with SMTP id eo1mr2087548wib.13.1329996314126 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 03:25:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Csc+QzHbLXlTMcqOLJB+Jh9vr0FwV69+7wuZmRNgCi8=; b=LK9/oPQ9HJNNTQ54ko8qlFnTQZII1ERLq2h7io+KTh9egIFAmQImeZo2pzjEz7KDGu hQB8bf/WVivn5daP84GBy90FFNlmfrXlFj4p3D8oQHYF1Cb0fDs1tzDofYOdxDbawlvF q/FRaaVq6n3a5SVfZt/DdPkytuVX/3wMeG4kw= Received: by 10.180.99.65 with SMTP id eo1mr1720227wib.13.1329996314055; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 03:25:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-215-91-131.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.91.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fl2sm5318327wib.4.2012.02.23.03.25.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 03:25:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:25:03 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness Message-ID: <20120223132503.6cd2fcde@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <4F462019.4020703@waagmeester.co.za> References: <4F45F490.2020504@waagmeester.co.za> <201202230826.00642.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <4F45FE1F.9070006@waagmeester.co.za> <20120223091734.2aa3d6d0@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <4F461983.8080100@waagmeester.co.za> <20120223130822.1a260044@khamul.example.com> <4F462019.4020703@waagmeester.co.za> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5f9cd988-d1a3-49f8-bfef-ae901a6ea372 X-Archives-Hash: 0b43c0dc82e9c7bcadaa9deb2f55bbf5 On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:16:41 +0200 Coert Waagmeester wrote: > > Not doing it this way means a very high likelyhood of the machine > > not booting with every single upgrade, plus the huge amount of work > > it takes to go through everything in menuconfig. > > indeed, especially when the server is stuck in a far away rack. Ooooooooooh, those are the scary ones. Two excellent things can help with that: A proper RAC setup, or Copy the debian boot scheme, where is a kernel won't boot, it panics and times out after 30 seconds. Grub then automagically boots the previous working kernel. Just don't do what I did earlier: sit in Joburg and configure the firewall on a Xen host in deepest darkest Africa where there's no tarred roads to get to it. Check the iptables config three times, plus get your colleagues to look it over as well. We all signed off on it. Guess what? Yup, you got it. We all missed something and now we are locked out. Remember, it's in deepest darkest Africa. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com