From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S068R-0002JH-0d for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:57:07 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E93F4E172D; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB2CE1706 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhi8 with SMTP id hi8so4740203wib.40 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alan.mckinnon@gmail.com designates 10.180.8.226 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.8.226; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alan.mckinnon@gmail.com designates 10.180.8.226 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alan.mckinnon@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alan.mckinnon@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.8.226]) by 10.180.8.226 with SMTP id u2mr32317494wia.16.1329893746227 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:55:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CUfrIkxGH1/9PIxX/g5jZ6cV2+aLv/Jlq6DZq29/9IY=; b=jzvzlcj8EGNx2LFo0MtS5MUc50Zuytpjy9yx4ipQsuokX0ZNFOcFs8h4Z4ya37gurX PxqHgyUS9dnYvhgJMXCbvWH4uxVy2VtGbCsxO2QPo4AfL3CqZcSrOhG8IxkmAUIKAV3N GJpwP47a0Ca8YfD/+iHAnq37LAA2vExSN/ZDw= Received: by 10.180.8.226 with SMTP id u2mr26758759wia.16.1329893746131; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-215-91-131.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.91.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gf3sm25648752wib.6.2012.02.21.22.55.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:55:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:55:33 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alternative to thunderbird? Message-ID: <20120222085533.243910a5@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1329721126.28534.2.camel@fuzztop> <20120220233324.7b745f87@khamul.example.com> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 99b06599-936b-4178-b69a-ff15c0a380a6 X-Archives-Hash: e95a908f4cb388bae9aa3eda93b2cfeb On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:56:31 -0800 walt wrote: > Likewise for debugging the kdepim mess when it was already working > well in the old kde. What ARE they thinking? Reminds me of our US > Congress, all advertising and no product. kdepim devs are just making a simple classic mistake that's been made over and over and over again. Developers do not learn from history, every time this mistake is made the team doing it thinks *they* will be different. This is their second big project - the most dangerous one a dev will ever work on. Frederick P. Brooks has it all covered since the 70s. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com