From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RylYa-0002kf-JB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:46:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8438FE0C08; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7E5E0BDA for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werp13 with SMTP id p13so2965903wer.40 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:41:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alan.mckinnon@gmail.com designates 10.180.24.166 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.24.166; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alan.mckinnon@gmail.com designates 10.180.24.166 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alan.mckinnon@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alan.mckinnon@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.24.166]) by 10.180.24.166 with SMTP id v6mr5459833wif.10.1329576064280 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:41:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Cb8WWqCIRYZITaAof4jZcwHAXrxxwoa4EkdNvRpnrS4=; b=YzEFvAfnEH9wGNy7OLcwDKcL+UTFVpoE/IpOeP3i0MAVG4/yHBPF1y4ReL9HmgJTnk Kb3HNi0T6G/HPDUDyhhSOI515yr6MPplL0A0AdKeKqIBzNGGHAgUWJCIggoWN9U+8+Hl R4XHFc0rN6cyYdoTmgQuFuP8qIpFmyNgPdsao= Received: by 10.180.24.166 with SMTP id v6mr4614515wif.10.1329576064214; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:41:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-215-2-107.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.2.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ec3sm3849238wib.1.2012.02.18.06.41.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:41:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:40:58 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess? Message-ID: <20120218164058.65c82d3d@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <4F3F9BFF.9070104@gmail.com> References: <4F3F7CBA.9020600@gmail.com> <20120218124409.43286f16@khamul.example.com> <4F3F92C0.3060506@gmail.com> <1971113.3a2zZ3o5ps@localhost> <4F3F9BFF.9070104@gmail.com> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: e66b2ffd-beaa-4039-86d2-0225f5479826 X-Archives-Hash: 7eed1211b104755d1dcb510b16651a51 On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:39:27 -0600 Dale wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Am Samstag, 18. Februar 2012, 06:00:00 schrieb Dale: > > >> > >> I don't really think they can unless they just cut power to all the > >> computers. After all, the internet is supposed to be redundant > >> right? If there is a few computers still running that have a > >> connection, it is still working. Sort of anyway. > >> > >> Does make one wonder tho. They have been talking about having a > >> internet "off switch" but I'm not sure it would be that easy. > > > > basically, yes. Take down the core routers and backbones and > > everything falls apart. > > > > But how long would it take to actually do this? > > Another thing, the Government, especially the military, uses the > internet too. Not quite. They use the same internet *technology* you do, not necessarily the same internet *devices*. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com