From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RylTt-0001Qs-AN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:41:45 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FA3FE0BE1; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04486E0BFD for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhi8 with SMTP id hi8so2497693wib.40 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:38:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alan.mckinnon@gmail.com designates 10.180.82.39 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.82.39; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alan.mckinnon@gmail.com designates 10.180.82.39 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alan.mckinnon@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alan.mckinnon@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.82.39]) by 10.180.82.39 with SMTP id f7mr4142495wiy.19.1329575915256 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:38:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=c9rj+QA9HcmADTkhW7KlrbBEa2MfORbr6xw8wrCEeJc=; b=KytkLjtZde9RIzidGgnX51Uz9A42XXgWjPvZzpGQoJ3VdRW1XhUGRC13M21j7ro/Ip kI4HByIjJIBIFOlY1UVBl6uyO3RtXUtbNGSMH42nF6v4NLUIV2+7DVaqRxLjiM/PAl7a L44e42Nd94G18aq7TitU77mSvYuD10MFpsQWo= Received: by 10.180.82.39 with SMTP id f7mr3482793wiy.19.1329575915215; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:38:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-215-2-107.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.2.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y6sm3787021wix.10.2012.02.18.06.38.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:38:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:38:29 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess? Message-ID: <20120218163829.7687560b@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <4F3FA512.3060508@gmail.com> References: <4F3F7CBA.9020600@gmail.com> <20120218124409.43286f16@khamul.example.com> <4F3F92C0.3060506@gmail.com> <1971113.3a2zZ3o5ps@localhost> <4F3FA512.3060508@gmail.com> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7c9681b9-d141-49fe-9fa2-10b3d8c08b12 X-Archives-Hash: 6bc5de69c6faed378df84b2487e17511 On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:18:10 -0600 Dale wrote: > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > Indeed. In fact, easier than that. > > > > Just inject false BGP routes into one of the backbone level > > routers, and see how wide the Internet becomes 'impacted'. Do it to > > maybe 5 or 6 other routers that watch guard over the transatlantic > > and transpacific routes, and watch as the Internet fold upon itself. > > > > I was once a certified Network Engineer before I became a System > > Admin, so I know. The soft underbelly of the Intartubes is > > depressingly very vulnerable. > > > > Rgds, > > > > > Sounds like the internet could be switched off. So, next question, > how easy would it be to get it going again? Hours? Days? Weeks? Nobody knows as we've never had to do it. We have no idea how to reboot the internet or even if we can. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com