From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RylQ0-0008RW-RN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:37:45 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E003FE0BFB; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351DDE0BE8 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhi8 with SMTP id hi8so2496695wib.40 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of alan.mckinnon@gmail.com designates 10.180.14.73 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.14.73; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alan.mckinnon@gmail.com designates 10.180.14.73 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=alan.mckinnon@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=alan.mckinnon@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.14.73]) by 10.180.14.73 with SMTP id n9mr4215021wic.16.1329575779468 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:36:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ed2bwHWOM1sp+Hh83B6kBN7imlyXHawK0jyFL9ORW4I=; b=Bl1Z7+O3VF/zXnmcXLJ5yTXz7/cJJ6ph01a8JYUjFFwkOq54mB0LqONC6bFdKwg8Bs dcQj65RJ9IlP62YakRdZUI7IbnnaOPtwHzcnf/Q1B6KtdIvybsgPcwT2sdTjV15RpsuQ nEI7GJi31ZonAnSXxDQvgHfkc6Q8sVfQZgXfI= Received: by 10.180.14.73 with SMTP id n9mr3539953wic.16.1329575779420; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-215-2-107.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.2.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dw7sm3811452wib.4.2012.02.18.06.36.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:36:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:36:13 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess? Message-ID: <20120218163613.6b3d20c9@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <4F3F92C0.3060506@gmail.com> References: <4F3F7CBA.9020600@gmail.com> <20120218124409.43286f16@khamul.example.com> <4F3F92C0.3060506@gmail.com> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: a0a11fd5-a91e-4144-9048-f70b6d8c1244 X-Archives-Hash: 9f9c6c1936dcaa3b19cdd5bbe24b0196 On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:00:00 -0600 Dale wrote: > > And no, the intartubes will NOT be switched off. > > > > I don't really think they can unless they just cut power to all the > computers. After all, the internet is supposed to be redundant right? > If there is a few computers still running that have a connection, it > is still working. Sort of anyway. > > Does make one wonder tho. They have been talking about having a > internet "off switch" but I'm not sure it would be that easy. To switch off the internet, you don't switch off the computers on the internet. You switch off the routers that drive the internet. There is no "kill switch", what there is is the old-fashioned method called "making a phone call" and that conversation has all sorts of references to broken knees and such. This is how Egypt did it a year ago. But the internet is full of rogue and maverick sysadmins who don't take kindly to strong-arming, so coverage won't be complete. Unless of course Cisco and Huawei put magic firmware code into their router interface hardware that we don't know about. If you are worried about that internet, *that* is the part of it you should be worried about. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com