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* [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
@ 2012-02-14 20:41 Grant
  2012-02-14 20:47 ` Michael Mol
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From: Grant @ 2012-02-14 20:41 UTC (permalink / raw
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Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?

- Grant



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-14 20:41 [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox? Grant
@ 2012-02-14 20:47 ` Michael Mol
  2012-02-14 20:48 ` mike
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From: Michael Mol @ 2012-02-14 20:47 UTC (permalink / raw
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On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
> portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?

I mostly use Chromium. IIRC, there's also Galeon. You'd have to look
at the current state of the ebuild to see how little (or much) of Gtk
and GNOME you'd have to pull in.

-- 
:wq



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-14 20:41 [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox? Grant
  2012-02-14 20:47 ` Michael Mol
@ 2012-02-14 20:48 ` mike
  2012-02-14 20:53 ` LK
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From: mike @ 2012-02-14 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw
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On 02/14/2012 03:41 PM, Grant wrote:
> Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
> portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?

I've used Chromium in the past.  It supports the same plugins that
Firefox does.  There is also Epiphany, the GNOME browser, which I am
relatively certain handles the same types of plugins that FF and
Chromium do.

	--- Mike

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-14 20:41 [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox? Grant
  2012-02-14 20:47 ` Michael Mol
  2012-02-14 20:48 ` mike
@ 2012-02-14 20:53 ` LK
  2012-02-14 20:54 ` Alex Schuster
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From: LK @ 2012-02-14 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw
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On 120214, at 21:41, Grant wrote:
> Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
> portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?
I guess the default XFCE4 browser supports flash. it is lightweight. It came once with ubuntu xfce and i liked it.
(that to be a fast pick)




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* Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-14 20:41 [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox? Grant
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  2012-02-14 20:53 ` LK
@ 2012-02-14 20:54 ` Alex Schuster
  2012-02-14 20:58 ` Alecks Gates
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From: Alex Schuster @ 2012-02-14 20:54 UTC (permalink / raw
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Grant writes:

> Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
> portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?

Maybe you like www-client/midori:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midori_%28web_browser%29

	Wonko



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-14 20:41 [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox? Grant
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2012-02-14 20:54 ` Alex Schuster
@ 2012-02-14 20:58 ` Alecks Gates
  2012-02-15  8:55   ` v_2e
  2012-02-14 21:05 ` Paul Hartman
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From: Alecks Gates @ 2012-02-14 20:58 UTC (permalink / raw
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On Feb 14, 2012 3:42 PM, "Grant" <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
> portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?
>
> - Grant
>
Midori is quite minimal and has flash support last I checked.  It's very
lightweight on the features, which can be good and bad :).  Personally I
get tired of new chromium and v8 builds every week.

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-14 20:41 [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox? Grant
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2012-02-14 20:58 ` Alecks Gates
@ 2012-02-14 21:05 ` Paul Hartman
  2012-02-14 21:29   ` Alecks Gates
  2012-02-14 21:41 ` Jean-Christophe Bach
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From: Paul Hartman @ 2012-02-14 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
> portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?

Chromium/Chrome, Opera, Konqueror... flash works in all of those and
are all fast and minimalistic compared to Firefox. Probably Epiphany,
too, but I don't use Gnome so I haven't tried it in years.



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-14 21:05 ` Paul Hartman
@ 2012-02-14 21:29   ` Alecks Gates
  2012-02-14 21:34     ` Michael Mol
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From: Alecks Gates @ 2012-02-14 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Feb 14, 2012 4:16 PM, "Paul Hartman" <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
> > portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?
>
> Chromium/Chrome, Opera, Konqueror... flash works in all of those and
> are all fast and minimalistic compared to Firefox. Probably Epiphany,
> too, but I don't use Gnome so I haven't tried it in years.
>
Firefox is quite fast and is also the only browser I've found that can
easily manage hundreds of tabs + amazing addons.  Firefox has no true
alternative, if you consider everything.  The last time I tried Epiphany
flash didn't appear to work out of the box, but I might have done something
wrong too.

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-14 21:29   ` Alecks Gates
@ 2012-02-14 21:34     ` Michael Mol
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From: Michael Mol @ 2012-02-14 21:34 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Alecks Gates <fuzzylunkinz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Feb 14, 2012 4:16 PM, "Paul Hartman" <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
>> > portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?
>>
>> Chromium/Chrome, Opera, Konqueror... flash works in all of those and
>> are all fast and minimalistic compared to Firefox. Probably Epiphany,
>> too, but I don't use Gnome so I haven't tried it in years.
>>
> Firefox is quite fast and is also the only browser I've found that can
> easily manage hundreds of tabs + amazing addons.  Firefox has no true
> alternative, if you consider everything.  The last time I tried Epiphany
> flash didn't appear to work out of the box, but I might have done something
> wrong too.

Try Chromium and Seamonkey.

Also, the phrase "...has no true alternative, if you consider
everything." makes you sound like a fanboy. Be careful with that.

-- 
:wq



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-14 20:41 [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox? Grant
                   ` (5 preceding siblings ...)
  2012-02-14 21:05 ` Paul Hartman
@ 2012-02-14 21:41 ` Jean-Christophe Bach
  2012-02-14 21:47   ` Claudio Roberto França Pereira
  2012-02-15 16:43 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant
  2012-02-17 21:28 ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
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From: Jean-Christophe Bach @ 2012-02-14 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw
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* Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> [14.02.2012. @12:41:25 -0800]:

> Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
> portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?
> 
> - Grant

Hi,

You may want to try Luakit which is light and highly configurable by Lua
scripts. I think it is a gread browser.

JC

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-14 21:41 ` Jean-Christophe Bach
@ 2012-02-14 21:47   ` Claudio Roberto França Pereira
  2012-02-15  1:05     ` Frank Steinmetzger
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From: Claudio Roberto França Pereira @ 2012-02-14 21:47 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

> Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> [14.02.2012. @12:41:25 -0800]:
>
> Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
> portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?
>
> - Grant

Check Vimperator for Firefox, and also uzbl (uzbl-browser or uzbl-tabbed).



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-14 21:47   ` Claudio Roberto França Pereira
@ 2012-02-15  1:05     ` Frank Steinmetzger
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From: Frank Steinmetzger @ 2012-02-15  1:05 UTC (permalink / raw
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On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:47:51PM -0200, Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote:
> > Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> [14.02.2012. @12:41:25 -0800]:
> >
> > Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
> > portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?
> >
> > - Grant
> 
> Check Vimperator for Firefox, and also uzbl (uzbl-browser or uzbl-tabbed).

If you go the vimperator way, _definitely_ check out pentadactyl[1] also. At
some point in time and space, the main devs (according to the penta website)
left the vimperator project and forked pentadactyl.

(The FAQ covers why there was a fork in the first place).

[1] http://dactyl.sourceforge.net/pentadactyl/
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-14 20:58 ` Alecks Gates
@ 2012-02-15  8:55   ` v_2e
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From: v_2e @ 2012-02-15  8:55 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

  Hello!

On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:58:20 -0500
Alecks Gates <fuzzylunkinz@gmail.com> wrote:

> Midori is quite minimal and has flash support last I checked.  It's
> very lightweight on the features, which can be good and bad :).
> Personally I get tired of new chromium and v8 builds every week.
  I use Midori for my everyday surfing. And it works faster than IceCat
(which I use from time to time too). Its feature set may be not so rich
as IceCat's (or Firefox') one, but I haven't even noticed something
missing in it, in fact. Except maybe for the FTP protocol support.
  And also, Midori supports plugins and may be extended via them. 

  Regards, 
     Vladimir

----- 
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-14 20:41 [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox? Grant
                   ` (6 preceding siblings ...)
  2012-02-14 21:41 ` Jean-Christophe Bach
@ 2012-02-15 16:43 ` Grant
  2012-02-17  6:21   ` Walter Dnes
  2012-02-17 21:28 ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
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From: Grant @ 2012-02-15 16:43 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Gentoo mailing list

> Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
> portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?
>
> - Grant

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.  It sounds like chromium and
midori are the most popular here but lots of other suggestions I will
look into too.

- Grant



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-15 16:43 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant
@ 2012-02-17  6:21   ` Walter Dnes
  2012-02-17 16:37     ` Grant
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From: Walter Dnes @ 2012-02-17  6:21 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 08:43:20AM -0800, Grant wrote

> Thanks for the suggestions everyone.  It sounds like chromium and
> midori are the most popular here but lots of other suggestions I will
> look into too.

  Thanks for posting the question.  I found out about midori, thanks to
this thread.  It passes *MY* "acid test".  I'm a paying subscriber to
both live365.com (internet radio) and NHL Gamecenter Live (NHL Hockey),
and they both work fine under midori.  Both of them rely heavily on
Flash.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-17  6:21   ` Walter Dnes
@ 2012-02-17 16:37     ` Grant
  2012-02-17 16:51       ` Grant
  2012-02-17 20:58       ` v_2e
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From: Grant @ 2012-02-17 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

>> Thanks for the suggestions everyone.  It sounds like chromium and
>> midori are the most popular here but lots of other suggestions I will
>> look into too.
>
>  Thanks for posting the question.  I found out about midori, thanks to
> this thread.  It passes *MY* "acid test".  I'm a paying subscriber to
> both live365.com (internet radio) and NHL Gamecenter Live (NHL Hockey),
> and they both work fine under midori.  Both of them rely heavily on
> Flash.

I think I'm switching to midori.  Does anyone know how to beautify it
just a bit?  Smoother fonts and maybe just a bit of edge roundness?

- Grant



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-17 16:37     ` Grant
@ 2012-02-17 16:51       ` Grant
  2012-02-17 18:42         ` Grant
  2012-02-17 20:58       ` v_2e
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From: Grant @ 2012-02-17 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

>>> Thanks for the suggestions everyone.  It sounds like chromium and
>>> midori are the most popular here but lots of other suggestions I will
>>> look into too.
>>
>>  Thanks for posting the question.  I found out about midori, thanks to
>> this thread.  It passes *MY* "acid test".  I'm a paying subscriber to
>> both live365.com (internet radio) and NHL Gamecenter Live (NHL Hockey),
>> and they both work fine under midori.  Both of them rely heavily on
>> Flash.
>
> I think I'm switching to midori.  Does anyone know how to beautify it
> just a bit?  Smoother fonts and maybe just a bit of edge roundness?
>
> - Grant

Ouch, is copy/paste in midori working for anyone?  I seem to be bitten
by this bug which has no resolution:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori/+bug/707888

- Grant



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-17 16:51       ` Grant
@ 2012-02-17 18:42         ` Grant
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From: Grant @ 2012-02-17 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

>>>> Thanks for the suggestions everyone.  It sounds like chromium and
>>>> midori are the most popular here but lots of other suggestions I will
>>>> look into too.
>>>
>>>  Thanks for posting the question.  I found out about midori, thanks to
>>> this thread.  It passes *MY* "acid test".  I'm a paying subscriber to
>>> both live365.com (internet radio) and NHL Gamecenter Live (NHL Hockey),
>>> and they both work fine under midori.  Both of them rely heavily on
>>> Flash.
>>
>> I think I'm switching to midori.  Does anyone know how to beautify it
>> just a bit?  Smoother fonts and maybe just a bit of edge roundness?
>>
>> - Grant
>
> Ouch, is copy/paste in midori working for anyone?  I seem to be bitten
> by this bug which has no resolution:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori/+bug/707888
>
> - Grant

Flash isn't working for me either:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6901904.html

Also bookmark support is super-buggy and I have to 'paxctl -m
/usr/bin/midori' to avoid crashing on some websites.

- Grant



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-17 16:37     ` Grant
  2012-02-17 16:51       ` Grant
@ 2012-02-17 20:58       ` v_2e
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From: v_2e @ 2012-02-17 20:58 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:37:19 -0800
Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know how to beautify it just a bit?  Smoother fonts and
> maybe just a bit of edge roundness?
> 

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:51:18 -0800
Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ouch, is copy/paste in midori working for anyone?  I seem to be bitten
> by this bug which has no resolution:
> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori/+bug/707888

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:42:21 -0800
Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Flash isn't working for me either:
> 
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6901904.html
> 
> Also bookmark support is super-buggy and I have to 'paxctl -m
> /usr/bin/midori' to avoid crashing on some websites.
> 

  And otherwise Midori is a very cool browser. :)

  Well, to be serious, I'm also annoyed by this not-working "Ctrl+C"
story. Still, as somebody pointed out, one may use "Ctrl+Insert" or
"Ctrl+X" which seem to work most of the time.
  As for the "interface roundness", as far as I know, Midori may be
compiled to use with either GTK2 or GTK3. The GTK2 interface looks more
"round", I'd say. So, you may try USE="-gtk3"
  As for the bookmarking, it is also a looooong story, but the
developers seem to work on this. At least, I noticed a couple of
changes in bookmarks management for several recent releases.

  To be short, Midori is indeed a problematic browser, but still it has
a nice (not all-inclusive, but exactly 'nice') set of features which
make it the most convenient for me at the moment... well, except for
that broken "Ctrl+C" thing...

----- 
 <v_2e@ukr.net>



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-14 20:41 [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox? Grant
                   ` (7 preceding siblings ...)
  2012-02-15 16:43 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant
@ 2012-02-17 21:28 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  2012-02-17 21:35   ` Michael Mol
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From: Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2012-02-17 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Am Dienstag, 14. Februar 2012, 12:41:25 schrieb Grant:
> Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
> portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?
> 
> - Grant

konqueror or chromium.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Alternative to firefox?
  2012-02-17 21:28 ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
@ 2012-02-17 21:35   ` Michael Mol
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From: Michael Mol @ 2012-02-17 21:35 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
<volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 14. Februar 2012, 12:41:25 schrieb Grant:
>> Has anyone found a GUI alternative to firefox they like that's in
>> portage?  Something minimal preferably but with flash support?
>>
>> - Grant
>
> konqueror or chromium.

Konqueror 'minimal'? Doesn't it come with all of KDE? ;P

(To be fair, I liked Konqueror back when I was using KDE around 2001.)


-- 
:wq



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