[gentoo-user] KMail

[gentoo-user] KMail

[Daniel D Jones]

I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October.  After 
spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to get the 
upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to version 4.4.11.1.  

With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the bugs 
have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 06:33:12PM -0500, Daniel D Jones wrote:
> I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October.  After 
> spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to get the 
> upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to version 4.4.11.1.  
> 
> With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the bugs 
> have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?

I tried it as soon as the 4.8 upgrade was done. After I added an IMAP
resource, it didn't show up in the folder pane, although its folders were
listed in the dialog where one can select folder subscriptions (right click in
folder pane→Manage local subscriptions).

I have no interest right now to bother with it, I became fairly happy with
mutt. ^^
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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail

[Mick]

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On Friday 10 Feb 2012 03:23:11 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 06:33:12PM -0500, Daniel D Jones wrote:
> > I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October.  After
> > spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to get the
> > upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to version
> > 4.4.11.1.
> > 
> > With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the
> > bugs have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?
> 
> I tried it as soon as the 4.8 upgrade was done. After I added an IMAP
> resource, it didn't show up in the folder pane, although its folders were
> listed in the dialog where one can select folder subscriptions (right click
> in folder pane→Manage local subscriptions).
> 
> I have no interest right now to bother with it, I became fairly happy with
> mutt. ^^

Does anyone know if this fork is offering a KDEPIM that actually works?

http://www.trinitydesktop.org/
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Donnerstag, 9. Februar 2012, 18:33:12 schrieb Daniel D Jones:
> I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October.  After
> spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to get the
> upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to version
> 4.4.11.1.
> 
> With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the bugs
> have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?

I switched a long time ago, so I can't say anything about 'smoother' but it 
does work, as long as you remove all mail ressources and add them back one 
after another.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KMail

[Mick]

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On Saturday 11 Feb 2012 07:47:41 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 9. Februar 2012, 18:33:12 schrieb Daniel D Jones:
> > I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October.  After
> > spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to get the
> > upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to version
> > 4.4.11.1.
> > 
> > With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the
> > bugs have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?
> 
> I switched a long time ago, so I can't say anything about 'smoother' but it
> does work, as long as you remove all mail ressources and add them back one
> after another.

Unfortunately, it does not work here on my test x86 stable box.  I have 
removed and added each resource more than a dozen times.  POP3 seems to 
broadly work (but it creates duplicate messages which once deleted are 
recreated) and IMAP4 does not show any messages in the Inbox.  The 
kaddressbook does not show the addresses.

I've tried deleting akonadi databases, adding the resources or importing them  
and starting again many, many times to come to the conclusion that in my set 
up it just won't work.  I hope that code progress eventually restores 
functionality which I consider absolutely basic - i.e. to be able to read my 
messages and use my addresses.

Having wasted far too much time for no positive result I'm now in hope that 
trinity desktop will come up with a solution that I was sorry to see left 
behind - KDE 3.5.
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Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: KMail

[Jörg Schaible]

Mick wrote:

> On Saturday 11 Feb 2012 07:47:41 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>> Am Donnerstag, 9. Februar 2012, 18:33:12 schrieb Daniel D Jones:
>> > I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October. 
>> > After spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to
>> > get the upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to
>> > version 4.4.11.1.
>> > 
>> > With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the
>> > bugs have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?
>> 
>> I switched a long time ago, so I can't say anything about 'smoother' but
>> it does work, as long as you remove all mail ressources and add them back
>> one after another.
> 
> Unfortunately, it does not work here on my test x86 stable box.  I have
> removed and added each resource more than a dozen times.  POP3 seems to
> broadly work (but it creates duplicate messages which once deleted are
> recreated) and IMAP4 does not show any messages in the Inbox.  The
> kaddressbook does not show the addresses.
> 
> I've tried deleting akonadi databases, adding the resources or importing
> them and starting again many, many times to come to the conclusion that in
> my set
> up it just won't work.  I hope that code progress eventually restores
> functionality which I consider absolutely basic - i.e. to be able to read
> my messages and use my addresses.

I successfully imported two installations with IMAP accounts. On both system 
the automated migration failed.

At one installation IMAP server was Courier and the mails were kept all on 
the server, here I had to delete and recreate the accounts.

The other installation used IMAP to access MS Exchange server and my account 
has typically no mail on the server, but all locally. After recreating my 
account, none of my local mail was available anymore. However I simply had 
to move (well, with backup) the contents of the old maildir folders to the 
new one and all I had to do in KMail was to refresh the folders manually. 
That was really fast - especially compared to that lengthly and unsuccessful 
migration attempt.

Local addresses resources had to be recreated, an LDAP resource worked after 
migration.

Nevertheless, it often feels like a 1.0 version, the old 4.4.x line had less 
bugs.

> Having wasted far too much time for no positive result I'm now in hope
> that trinity desktop will come up with a solution that I was sorry to see
> left behind - KDE 3.5.

Yes, some apps in KDE4 are still not at the same level, however, a lot are 
better. Unfortunately it seems those not-yet-at-same level are the more 
essential ones.

Cheers,
Jörg

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail

[Daniel D Jones]

On Saturday, February 11, 2012 03:18:53 Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 11 Feb 2012 07:47:41 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 9. Februar 2012, 18:33:12 schrieb Daniel D Jones:
> > > I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October. 
> > > After spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to
> > > get the upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to
> > > version 4.4.11.1.
> > > 
> > > With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the
> > > bugs have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?
> > 
> > I switched a long time ago, so I can't say anything about 'smoother' but
> > it does work, as long as you remove all mail ressources and add them
> > back one after another.
> 
> Unfortunately, it does not work here on my test x86 stable box.  I have
> removed and added each resource more than a dozen times.  POP3 seems to
> broadly work (but it creates duplicate messages which once deleted are
> recreated) and IMAP4 does not show any messages in the Inbox.  The
> kaddressbook does not show the addresses.
> 
> I've tried deleting akonadi databases, adding the resources or importing
> them and starting again many, many times to come to the conclusion that in
> my set up it just won't work.  I hope that code progress eventually
> restores functionality which I consider absolutely basic - i.e. to be able
> to read my messages and use my addresses.
> 
> Having wasted far too much time for no positive result I'm now in hope that
> trinity desktop will come up with a solution that I was sorry to see left
> behind - KDE 3.5.

Your experience sounds similar to mine.  I tried everything I could to get it 
working with limited success to say the least.  I'm using POP3 to a server 
sitting right here on the same local network, no IMAP.  Still had the problem 
with duplicate emails, unable to import my fairly large archives of old email, 
etc.

I don't have any desire to go back to KDE 3.5 - I like the 4.x changes to KDE.

I'm assuming then the upgrade to 4.8 didn't fix KDE and I'll just leave it 
pinned for now.

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the label. If you have a mind capable of believing all three of these divine 
attributes simultaneously, I have a wonderful bargain for you. No checks, 
please. Cash and in small bills." - Robert A Heinlein, _Time Enough for Love_

Re: [gentoo-user] KMail

[Jens Reinemuth]

Am Donnerstag, 9. Februar 2012, 18:33:12 schrieb Daniel D Jones:
> I was one of those bitten by the upgrade to KMail back in October.  After
> spending nearly two days without access to email while trying to get the
> upgrade and migration to work, I gave up and pinned KMail to version
> 4.4.11.1.
> 
> With the recent upgrade to KDE, I'm curious if anyone knows whether the bugs
> have been worked out and the KMail upgrade will go smoother now?

Just stay with 4.4.x! Akonadi/Nepomuk/... is imho not ready for daily use 
right now! I got 4.8 running in Kubuntu and its a real pain, even with the 8GB 
Ram in the company-laptop!

In private i will never switch! If someday you can't use the older Versions 
with actual KDE i will use Thunderbird...

Jens