Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amarok fade down

[Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>]

On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 11:18:41 -0600
Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de>
> wrote:
> > On 02/05/2012 06:02 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >>
> >> In short, both GStreamer and VLC can do anything that Xine do, and
> >> they probably do it better. If something is not working properly,
> >> it probably is a problem with the integration with KDE (via
> >> phonon). This should be fixed by them in a short time.
> >
> >
> > Stuff doesn't get fixed. Instead, new bugs keep piling up. KDE is
> > going down the drain. If the trend continues, KDE 4.9 will be of
> > the same stability as 4.0.
> 
> When Totem (the GNOME media player) changed its backend from Xine to
> GStreamer (way back in 2004 or 2005), it took a while to fix all the
> regressions. 

Remember the first release of Ubuntu (warty)? Remember how it shipped
with Totem + Gstreamer? Remember the gigantic amount of flak
Shuttleworth got from the "oh noes! you change stuff!" crowd?

It looks like he's now been vindicated for several years already, as
gstreamer does work nicely. True, his reasons for using it then were
licensing reasons, not so much technical ones, but it's still nice to
see projects start off with somewhat patchy support for "stuff" and
gradually improve to supporting almost everything.


> But eventually it got really, really nice. And back then
> GStreamer was not as nice as it is now. Have a little faith in the
> devs and do your part (fill bugs, use the betas, follow upstream
> closely), and in the end everything sorta kinda maybe will work out.
> 
> Sixteen years using Linux as my exclusive OS has taught me that's the
> only sane way to see things. The alternative is to get angry a lot and
> grow ulcers and maybe cancer.
> 
> Regards.



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Alan McKinnnon
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