From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Rraji-0006Q1-7E for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:48:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBE7DE07BB; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF02EE07F0 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdr12 with SMTP id dr12so3901864wgb.10 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:47:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=8HX7S8dAfNxX3zj9tBjOwMGfG1cugVVe1bLmngrCzw4=; b=gEZeW7s+bYhrS1GuJ5w0wcD4lv2OM3aAZ0M7k49iygncWVIAp1j7gHyZILBl1vUHhU N4w/nVbsJIpgGCZzOVfew7zrJVzsJBs0My/Dy+D1Mov/hI6zLDF7W+HyyXhGze6HzIyg 12PsNM1WFecEB7NQ2yrS2a6eKBjRoTPoB7WLM= Received: by 10.180.85.105 with SMTP id g9mr4520707wiz.12.1327866427081; Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:47:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from dell_xps.localnet (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa. [217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n3sm45039777wiz.9.2012.01.29.11.47.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:47:06 -0800 (PST) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:47:12 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.0.6-gentoo; KDE/4.7.4; x86_64; ; ) References: <4F20FDB1.1030100@gmail.com> <1694284.ZptZWuk5Hs@localhost> <4F259A11.7000508@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F259A11.7000508@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2198873.rb9i46YhTj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201201291947.15380.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 51f81a0b-4123-4128-92fc-b07593fba9bf X-Archives-Hash: 764c9373288700eea0f361d2233c4d8b --nextPart2198873.rb9i46YhTj Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday 29 Jan 2012 19:12:17 Dale wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Hi, > >=20 > > have you read googles privacy changes yourself? > >=20 > > I just did - and there is nothing new or unusual. >=20 > I read some more on it but I'm thinking about what will be coming next. > It seems when a company goes public like Google did a while back, > facebook is about too, they go downhill a bit privacy wise and it is > like rolling down a hill. It takes a while but it happens. >=20 > Thing about me having fastmail or something, it is me voting with my > money, not me leaving with no vote against someone else's money. Right > now, google is only worried about the money from ads which is something > I can't control. If fastmail tries this, when I leave it is my money > they lose. Fastmail will think about me not some ad that may or may not > be coming. Since I will be a paying customer, I won't have any ads > anyway. >=20 > I am looking into Yandex too. Are they Russian or something? I'm kind > of leaning towards them for a couple reasons but trying to figure them > out. I'm trying to do this slow and with a deeper knowledge this time > so I don't have to go through this again later on. >=20 > Plus, I just don't like being tracked all over the place anyway. We > have a big enough brother already. As far as I can tell all that is changing with Google is they are going to= =20 join up in terms of user authentication, hitherto separate portals or apps= =20 they had. I do not see a material difference to what is there now. =46astmail, Google, Yahoo!, Yandex, et al, are all public ISPs and are maki= ng=20 their money one way or another. It is in their benefit to respect users=20 privacy, but don't for a minute think that your info while in their systems= =20 can be deemed as private. Unless you use encryption they can probe it,=20 analyse it, read it, categorise it, etc. Whether it is Google ads bureau, = or=20 CIA, or FSB, there is not much of a difference between them as far as the=20 privacy of your data is concerned. I think that you are worrying yourself unnecessarily, although there is no= =20 harm in being cautious all the same. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart2198873.rb9i46YhTj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk8lokMACgkQVTDTR3kpaLYAuQCeJj6tKlreu68YuYBXyavNKZXC PUgAoKxS37bnPP8rY80kVxPC1B6ZwHEd =2LqW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2198873.rb9i46YhTj--