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[217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id em13sm4513787wid.7.2012.01.26.02.07.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 26 Jan 2012 02:07:44 -0800 (PST) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:07:51 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.0.6-gentoo; KDE/4.7.4; x86_64; ; ) References: <4F20FDB1.1030100@gmail.com> <87ipjyvogz.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87ipjyvogz.fsf@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1372918.sARnhS6pdJ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201201261007.53041.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: c8ad6ccc-f896-43ff-bc7c-12be674640cc X-Archives-Hash: 34c052f0d53b045c876268b9393c56a1 --nextPart1372918.sARnhS6pdJ Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 08:48:28 Michael Mathurin wrote: > Dale writes: > > Hi list, > >=20 > > I ran across this news item about Google: > >=20 > > http://alturl.com/s7xi5 > >=20 > > The long URL is below. I'm sort of getting to where I don't like Google > > since they seem to be doing things that I'm just not comfy with. Next > > they will want a camera on my rig so they can watch me surf. I found a > > search engine that may work. It is here: > >=20 > > www.ixquick.com > >=20 > > Does anyone have a better search tool? I don't like Yahoo either. I do > > like froogle so that would be a bonus. You know, shopping tool. > >=20 > > Now to my next issue. I'm thinking about switching emails too. Yea, > > everyone on here knows my addy but I bet most can recognize my posts > > anyway. Plus, if the init thingy goes south, well, it happens. Anyway, > > what is a nice stable email account server that allows pop access, > > Seamonkey as the email program, that is not tracking everything or nosey > > as heck? Free would be nice but I would pay something inexpensive on a > > yearly basis if it is really good. I think Yahoo has this but ain't > > they sort of like Google already? Plus, I'm not sure how much longer > > Yahoo is going to last or make similar changes itself. I'm sort of > > getting tired of switching emails every time I switch ISPs or there is a > > policy change. That is why I switched to gmail in the first place. No > > matter what ISP I use, I can still use Gmail. Yet, here I am again. > >=20 > > Thoughts? Suggestions? > >=20 > > Dale > >=20 > > :-) :-) > >=20 > > Long URL just in case the shorty above doesn't work. It may be broken > > tho. Copy and paste alert. > >=20 > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/google-tracks-consume= rs > > -across-products-users-cant-opt-out/2012/01/24/gIQArgJHOQ_story.html?wp= is > > rc=3Dal_comboNE_b >=20 > For an alternative search engine you should have a look at DuckDuckGo > I've used it in the past and it has a pretty impressive set of > features. As for e-mail I've heard good things about FastMail. Hushmail > used to be a good one but I'm not sure how they stand today. I've used Fastmail for years and is a very reliable email provider. It doe= s=20 not have the storage allowance of Gmail on its free account, so space will = run=20 out unless you start deleting messages. Also, unless you pay you are only= =20 allowed to access messages via webmail and IMAP4, not POP3. There are opti= ons=20 for webmail scrapers or archiving of messages via mail clients, but Fastmai= l=20 is not Google in terms of access options and features. BTW, it seems to me that if you access youtube and at the same time search= =20 Google without being logged in to any of their portals, they will not be=20 tracking your email for user profiling purposes. They may be logging IP=20 addresses but it could be different users on the same IP address, so=20 advertising results would not be relevant. Delete flash and normal cookies, do not log in to any Google sites and you= =20 should be as good with their tracking of your habits as you always were. To search in relative anonymity you could of course use tor if you can put = up=20 with their slow connections, or perhaps visit Scroogle who also offer an SS= L=20 page in case you want to avoid anyone sniffing your packets. Scroogle look= s=20 like ixquick except that they only serve Google search results. At busy ti= mes=20 Google blocks Scroogle access, so it may be getting too popular for its own= =20 good. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart1372918.sARnhS6pdJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk8hJfgACgkQVTDTR3kpaLZqfwCgs0adr/g0Cw86UoWNI/hxEiac X1IAni2z0QdkhxVbizgTdqmx2ZNJIBZg =v1Xb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1372918.sARnhS6pdJ--