From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RqDs1-0005LM-1z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:11:21 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3752EE07CC; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166C7E0733 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:09:45 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAA2nIE9soXsZ/2dsb2JhbABDrkSBBoFyAQEEATocGBALCzQSFCU3GQKHYbgWiRMDBgMGBgIBCAkFEgQCBYJXFwgFBVkBCQUSHYI5YwSIP4UGh1iFZ4gyhFc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,571,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="159054845" Received: from 108-161-123-25.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([108.161.123.25]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2012 20:09:44 -0500 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 25 Jan 2012 20:08:26 -0500 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 20:08:26 -0500 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome-control-center any way to configure without pulseaudio? Message-ID: <20120126010826.GA9091@waltdnes.org> References: <2624.1327439667@ccs.covici.com> <18451.1327474321@ccs.covici.com> <20120125162811.5f93c41c@khamul.example.con> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120125162811.5f93c41c@khamul.example.con> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: ea2757e4-7043-4fae-a62f-8d7954b3f8a4 X-Archives-Hash: 1e33f028130dfc63d439a9728009c243 An answer from a different Walter ... > I also don't use pulse - plain ALSA is good enough for me - but looking > over the design goals for pulseaudio I see a decent attempt to deal > with audio properly for the future. These days we have computers and > devices that can interact with many other things in weird and > wonderful ways and software needs to deal with that. [...deletia...] > I just curious why you think that it's not useful to the ordinary > user in a generic wide way. I'll throw the question back to you. What specific benefits do you see? Not just generalities, but real life benfits, please. Sound daemons in general seem to be solutions in search of a problem. And if they couldn't find any problems to solve, they'd make up some new ones of their own. I remember the first I heard of pulseaudio was all the weeping and moaning of people on this forum and the GTALUG (Toronto area linux mailing list) trying to get sound working again after installing pulseaudio. Remember arts and esd? They went the way of HAL. Nuff said. The thing to remember is that humans cannot multitask audio very well. Try listening to 2 radio stations at once, and see what I mean. -- Walter Dnes