[gentoo-user] korganize-4.7.3 broken

[gentoo-user] korganize-4.7.3 broken

[James]

Hello,

I have been running kde on gentoo for some time.

Now, after the most recent upgrade, korganizer
will fire up, but not allow me to set/modify dates/
times, as it use to.

KDE has just always worked, so I've read/hacked
at it little over the years.

I did change the permission of:
~/.kde4/share/config/korganizerrc
but that did not do the trick.
I did google, but found nothing useful.

Any suggestions are most welcome.


James

Re: [gentoo-user] korganize-4.7.3 broken

[Mick]

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On Thursday 05 Jan 2012 19:43:28 James wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have been running kde on gentoo for some time.
> 
> Now, after the most recent upgrade, korganizer
> will fire up, but not allow me to set/modify dates/
> times, as it use to.
> 
> KDE has just always worked, so I've read/hacked
> at it little over the years.
> 
> I did change the permission of:
> ~/.kde4/share/config/korganizerrc
> but that did not do the trick.
> I did google, but found nothing useful.
> 
> Any suggestions are most welcome.
> 
> 
> James

Is nepomuk running?  With the KDE-4.7 a lot of KDEPIM functionality requires 
nepomuk to be there, although strigi can be disabled.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[James]

Mick <michaelkintzios <at> gmail.com> writes:


> > Now, after the most recent upgrade, korganizer
> > is borked.

> Is nepomuk running?  With the KDE-4.7 a lot of KDEPIM functionality requires 
> nepomuk to be there, although strigi can be disabled.


Yes both stringi and nepomuk are set to run in the System Settings
and appear to be running.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[Yohan Pereira]

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On Thursday 05 Jan 2012 21:10:07 James wrote:
> Yes both stringi and nepomuk are set to run in the System Settings
> and appear to be running.

Maybe you can try creating another akonadi resource similar to the one your 
using and see if it works.

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- Yohan Pereira


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[gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[James]

Yohan Pereira <yohan.pereira <at> gmail.com> writes:


> Maybe you can try creating another akonadi resource similar 
> to the one your using and see if it works.

OK, I'm game. Not sure how to do this; googling leaves
me more confused.

Got a few instructions on a reference for this?


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[Mick]

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On Friday 06 Jan 2012 15:57:40 James wrote:
> Yohan Pereira <yohan.pereira <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > Maybe you can try creating another akonadi resource similar
> > to the one your using and see if it works.
> 
> OK, I'm game. Not sure how to do this; googling leaves
> me more confused.
> 
> Got a few instructions on a reference for this?

Try Settings/Configure and then add new account, or fire up kcmshell4 
kcm_akonadi and add resources as desired.

However, as the e-news item says KDEPIM 4.7 is really borked right now.

Most people have recommended to move to T'bird, Claws, or mutt.  Having wasted 
more than a day to make the mess (that KDE is fast descending into) work in 
any acceptable fashion, I have stopped using KDEPIM on that box and masked it 
from infecting any of my remaining boxen.  When I learn to use mutt 
(unfortunately learning how to use it efficiently is still standing between me 
and my messages) I will stop harbouring hopes for KDE forking into some light-
version DE, with no databases, file indexers or any other such bloat that 
reminds me the worse of MSWindows, only more buggy!
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Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[James]

Mick <michaelkintzios <at> gmail.com> writes:


> Try Settings/Configure and then add new account, or fire up kcmshell4 
> kcm_akonadi and add resources as desired.

I had to use the settings->configureKorganizer->calenders
and then put the explict path into the config menu

~/.kde4/share/apps/korganizer/std.ics

to get the calender to show up. then select
the box in lower lefthand corner as suggested.

Never had to do that before.


> However, as the e-news item says KDEPIM 4.7 is really borked right now.

YEP!

> Most people have recommended to move to T'bird, Claws, or mutt.  

Tbird ++1!
great, easy, universal (doz) .....

Thanks to all that replied!

James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[Mick]

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On Monday 09 Jan 2012 16:38:52 James wrote:
> Mick <michaelkintzios <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > Try Settings/Configure and then add new account, or fire up kcmshell4
> > kcm_akonadi and add resources as desired.
> 
> I had to use the settings->configureKorganizer->calenders
> and then put the explict path into the config menu
> 
> ~/.kde4/share/apps/korganizer/std.ics
> 
> to get the calender to show up. then select
> the box in lower lefthand corner as suggested.
> 
> Never had to do that before.
> 
> > However, as the e-news item says KDEPIM 4.7 is really borked right now.
> 
> YEP!
> 
> > Most people have recommended to move to T'bird, Claws, or mutt.
> 
> Tbird ++1!
> great, easy, universal (doz) .....

I don't blame you!  I've emerged KDEPIM-4.7.4 on my test box and it continues 
to be broken - badly.

The pop3 messages are self-duplicating and the imap4 messages inbox is always 
empty ...

I did not yet try deleting akonadi db and nepomuk and trying re-importing 
everything.  I'm not sure if it is even worth it to bother with KDE anymore.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:53:48PM +0000, Mick wrote:

> > > However, as the e-news item says KDEPIM 4.7 is really borked right now.
> > 
> > YEP!
> > 
> > > Most people have recommended to move to T'bird, Claws, or mutt.
> > 
> > Tbird ++1!
> > great, easy, universal (doz) .....

When I was still using Windows, TBird was (and still is) my client of choice.
But when I made the switch in 2005, I immediately started using KMail, because
it was a good looking and well working program and I don't like TB's dependence
on GTK in the Linux realm.

> I don't blame you!  I've emerged KDEPIM-4.7.4 on my test box and it continues 
> to be broken - badly.
> 
> The pop3 messages are self-duplicating and the imap4 messages inbox is always 
> empty ...

And here an IMAP account first downloaded all emails from the server,
apparently changed some status header in them and thusly started to upload the
whole shebang back to the server. Even though, with <100 MB, my inbox is tiny,
I interrupted the process by logging out. Then I synced my inbox with
offlineimap (my usual way of using imap with mutt) and found many messages were
duplicates now. *facepalm*

There was not just one occasion when I thought I'd write a simple Qt-based
desktop from scratch (e.g in the likes and scope of Xfce). ^^
-- 
Gruß | Greetings | Qapla'
I forbid any use of my email addresses with Facebook services.

The best thing is you buy a string
and shoot yourself where the water is deepest.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[Yohan Pereira]

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On Wednesday 11 Jan 2012 05:36:39 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> There was not just one occasion when I thought I'd write a simple Qt-based
> desktop from scratch (e.g in the likes and scope of Xfce). ^^

razor-qt!! [1]

havent tried it yet (kdepim dosnt hate me as much) but heard good things about 
it.

[1] http://razor-qt.org/

-- 

- Yohan Pereira

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:53:48 +0000, Mick wrote:

> I did not yet try deleting akonadi db and nepomuk and trying
> re-importing everything.  I'm not sure if it is even worth it to bother
> with KDE anymore.

You'd get rid of the whole of KDE just because the mail client sucks?

You know, you can run non-KDE software on KDE :P


-- 
Neil Bothwick

deja vous - the act of forgetting someone's name /again/ despite being
introduced to them several times.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:20:06AM +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:53:48 +0000, Mick wrote:
> 
> > I did not yet try deleting akonadi db and nepomuk and trying
> > re-importing everything.  I'm not sure if it is even worth it to bother
> > with KDE anymore.
> 
> You'd get rid of the whole of KDE just because the mail client sucks?
> 
> You know, you can run non-KDE software on KDE :P

Plus, KDE without akonadi took less than 100 MB of RAM after login in a test
installation I did on a netbook. Even KDE3 startet at 120 back in the days.
Unfortunately, a number of other useful programs depend on akonadi, such as
KAlarm and even Akregator.
-- 
Gruß | Greetings | Qapla'
I forbid any use of my email addresses with Facebook services.

Mankind’s most thruthful word is: perhaps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 11 Jan 2012 12:14:18 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:20:06AM +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:53:48 +0000, Mick wrote:
> > > I did not yet try deleting akonadi db and nepomuk and trying
> > > re-importing everything.  I'm not sure if it is even worth it to bother
> > > with KDE anymore.
> > 
> > You'd get rid of the whole of KDE just because the mail client sucks?
> > 
> > You know, you can run non-KDE software on KDE :P
> 
> Plus, KDE without akonadi took less than 100 MB of RAM after login in a
> test installation I did on a netbook. Even KDE3 startet at 120 back in the
> days. Unfortunately, a number of other useful programs depend on akonadi,
> such as KAlarm and even Akregator.

Well, I'm not using the whole KDE environment on my machine, only certain 
applications.  Kmail and Konqueror are the must haves for me.  My wife uses 
the full KDE and I'll have to break the news to her that Kmail which she 
prefers to T'bird may no longer be usable.  I do hope things improve with 
Kmail.

Meanwhile, I'll put some more effort into configuring and learning how to use 
mutt.
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[Peter Humphrey]

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On Wednesday 11 January 2012 21:41:47 Mick wrote:

> My wife uses the full KDE and I'll have to break the news to her that
> Kmail which she prefers to T'bird may no longer be usable.  I do hope
> things improve with Kmail.

Me too. At least in the meantime you can put a set of atoms into 
package.mask to keep the working version of kmail. I had to do that because 
the 4.7 upgrade was horribly broken on this box.

-- 
Rgds
Peter		Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23

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[gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[James]

James <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> writes:


> KDE has just always worked, so I've read/hacked
> at it little over the years.

OK, I think I found the problem. 

In the settings->general->calenders
there is nothing selected. Nothing shows
up but 2 copies of std.ics. 

Now in this dir ( ~/.kde4/share/apps/korganizer )
I have several calenders that end in .ics.
(for since kde 3 I have used mulitple calenders.
Do I just stick them in that dir, or do I have to
follow a new proceedure to add calenders.....?

None of them even show up. Before korganizer-4.7.3
each update to kde (stable) just auto picked up those
calenders.

So using the buttons in the configuration menu, 
to add the std.ics calender, I now see this:

" akonadi_kcal_resource_0
  No KDe calendar plugin configured yet "

Which leaves me to believe that akonadi,
stringi or PIM has run amok.....
How to I test that stringi, akonadi and
PIM are all running happily, on my old
dual core workstation? (what should ps
or similar command show).

Wisdom and guidance is of keen interest
as to WTF is going on, and the best/sane
method to get the calenders working.

NOTE that I just might hack a few
new calenders of my own, such as my 
son's basketball schedule into kcal.

James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[Yohan Pereira]

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On Friday 06 Jan 2012 16:28:39 James wrote:
> OK, I think I found the problem.
> 
> In the settings->general->calenders
> there is nothing selected. Nothing shows
> up but 2 copies of std.ics.
> 
> Now in this dir ( ~/.kde4/share/apps/korganizer )
> I have several calenders that end in .ics.
> (for since kde 3 I have used mulitple calenders.
> Do I just stick them in that dir, or do I have to
> follow a new proceedure to add calenders.....?
> 
> None of them even show up. Before korganizer-4.7.3
> each update to kde (stable) just auto picked up those
> calenders.
> 
> So using the buttons in the configuration menu,
> to add the std.ics calender, I now see this:
> 
> " akonadi_kcal_resource_0
>   No KDe calendar plugin configured yet "

Disclaimer : ive used korginizer for just over a month now (new 
to the concept time management) and im using 4.7.4. 

have you tried adding a "ICal Calendar File" resource and point it to one of 
the ics files if you know where they are. Or alternativly you can try the "KDE 
Calendar(traditional)" resource.

> 
> Which leaves me to believe that akonadi,
> stringi or PIM has run amok.....

I dont think strigi is causing any problem here, strigi is mainly for 
indexing files and most people (me) usually disable it.

> How to I test that stringi, akonadi and
> PIM are all running happily, on my old
> dual core workstation? (what should ps
> or similar command show).

If you type akonadi in krunner(alt+f2) or run the command 

kcmshell4 akonadi

it should show you akonadis configuration, 	under the Akonadi Server tab
there is a button to Test akonadi you can try that and see if everything is 
ok.



-- 

- Yohan Pereira

"How can you prove whether at this moment we are sleeping, and all our                                                                                    
thoughts are a dream; or whether we are awake, and talking to one another in 
the waking state?"
				                -- Plato

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[gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[James]

James <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> writes:


> > KDE has just always worked, so I've read/hacked

Well, like everyone else, I hate responding
to my own threads....

But, korganizer-4.7.3 is borked,  actually:
kmail korganizer kontact kaddressbook;
according to this posting:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-904862-start-0.html

Thankfully, I use thunderbird....

eix korganizer shows only 4.4.11.1 as stable
for a downgrade. Not sure how that will work.
Other suggest downgrading all of kde (too much
effort on a dual core).

Please post if anyone finds the fix on korganizer-4.7.3

Being a (dumb_a_ _) I found the bug: Bug 393135 .

Should have looked at bugs.gentoo.org first....

half-witted-admin,
James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[Peter Humphrey]

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On Friday 06 January 2012 18:00:31 James wrote:

> Well, like everyone else, I hate responding to my own threads....

On the contrary, I think it's as useful as any other kind of reply.

-- 
Rgds
Peter		Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: korganize-4.7.3 broken

[Peter Ruskin]

On Friday 06 January 2012 18:00:31 James wrote:
> Please post if anyone finds the fix on korganizer-4.7.3

4.8.0 works better.

-- 
Peter
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