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[217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ex2sm23452522wib.1.2012.01.05.12.15.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:15:26 -0800 (PST) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 20:15:27 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.0.6-gentoo; KDE/4.7.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <20111115062115.GA3262@waltdnes.org> <20120105200222.224ee38e@rohan.example.com> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1561806.F1POipKon1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201201052015.29333.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 3c425f7f-740a-47a2-8d4c-0d8986eb3526 X-Archives-Hash: 7c5712dba8dc3e4fc02cc95c7a2bc2b7 --nextPart1561806.F1POipKon1 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday 05 Jan 2012 18:20:16 Michael Mol wrote: > On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Alan McKinnon =20 wrote: > > On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:50:45 +0100 > >=20 > > pk wrote: > >> On 2012-01-05 13:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> > If /usr is local, what really is the point of having it separate > >> > from /? Have you ever found a Linux system in any condition that > >> > could not start just because the stuff in /usr was available? I > >> > haven't. > >> >=20 > >> > Even the split between bin and sbin is arbitrary. It's only there so > >> > that users can take sbin out of PATH and not have the screen > >> > cluttered with endless junk when they tab-tab. It makes much more > >> > sense to me to just have one single bin and lib location and shove > >> > everything into it. > >>=20 > >> I'm not an admin of a large organization so what do I know... but, I > >> still can appreciate the flexibility and "tidyness" it[2] gives you > >> in a multi-user system. I also can see this from a security point of > >> view ("keep the cool toys from the children")... I personally like it > >> for my very local computer as well for the above reasons (flex./tidy). > >>=20 > >> 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard > >>=20 > >> What you are basically saying is that everything "we" have learned > >> about computer systems should be abolished and we adapt the > >> monolithic, "black box" philosophy of newish systems like Windows. > >> That's how I interpret what you're saying (yes, I do know hardware > >> has changed since the 60'ies but not that radically, IMO)... I tend > >> to think of Unix as "Lego" where you have lots of little bits with > >> clean(ish) interfaces with which you can build whatever you want.dual > >=20 > > Good analogy. I also like building systems from individual Lego bricks. > > I don't like having to build the bricks themselves first :-) > >=20 > > Windows goes too far to the other extreme IMO. That OS seems to have > > largely abandoned control and there's not much in the way of > > structure. Too little control is just as bad as too much >=20 > Apparently they're going the 'app store' route in Windows 8. They're just playing catch up with Apple instead of trying to innovate. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart1561806.F1POipKon1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk8GBOEACgkQVTDTR3kpaLYVRgCfagqSKfnfWazXiUnRC+x+6U2q 8ZEAoMyff9nBZbvxfvSmAuEztiGZaiJI =oNBv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1561806.F1POipKon1--