From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri4HX-0000vt-5q for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:19:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2D9021C106; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD17B21C022 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhjj52 with SMTP id j52so10655770yhj.40 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:18:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tomXJpQy/9ut1bRBMtHJbJbUl7QEDrWkcRXjMZx21ac=; b=CRuzmZGYW0HvWSMYIwdqjquYvRukcPnf5HPkklIho/i9F1I/3xEA/HFyIyLL/XBHib 01O4R7Sc2mEfHTcFUA7dkkr8l6yJInMYdbnk8YJcgtDRck+eA8WKxSuInPOlglXfW8Qt IYb4nCodknWtHIqFIaX7NfvK/B5yl10rQ3k8Q= Received: by 10.236.174.72 with SMTP id w48mr65636082yhl.79.1325596718264; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from rohan.example.com (dustpuppy.is.co.za. [196.14.169.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x8sm126366938anh.17.2012.01.03.05.18.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:18:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:18:26 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 Message-ID: <20120103151826.7f0c74e3@rohan.example.com> In-Reply-To: <20120103123209.GB2410@nicolas-desktop> References: <20111115062115.GA3262@waltdnes.org> <20111121104724.GC7461@waltdnes.org> <20111201194544.GD4455@waltdnes.org> <20120103100445.GD1961@waltdnes.org> <20120103123209.GB2410@nicolas-desktop> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.24.4; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: e637ba40-0003-48a0-a48b-42fd8c7966b2 X-Archives-Hash: f3bcf8a36b7a7db74396a868a2453d1e On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:32:09 +0100 Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > The 03/01/12, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > (Come to think of it, has *any* distro ever attempted this... > > 'unconventional of going udev-free?) > > mdev is not an udev replacement. It's a very minimalist udev designed > for embedded systems and initramfs. These days, a full-featured system > require a dynamic /dev and AFAIK the only existing and up-to-date tool > for this job is udev. > > I don't think any other distro attempted to get free of udev as it > means coming back to 10 years ago, at least. > If you go back through the list archives you will find the enormous thread that caused Walter to start down this road in the first place. His efforts are an attempt to deal with the gigantic bloat-fest that the udev devs seem to revel in. Walter is doing fine work, he should be supported in this. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com