From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5QN-0008By-NZ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:33:12 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7098B21C127; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 14:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arsenic.logifi.fr (arsenic.logifi.fr [217.108.178.219]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C4E21C024 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 14:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nicolas-desktop (unknown [192.168.8.78]) by arsenic.logifi.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF0C2013D; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:31:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:31:20 +0100 From: Nicolas Sebrecht To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Nicolas Sebrecht , Pandu Poluan Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 Message-ID: <20120103143120.GF2410@nicolas-desktop> References: <20111115062115.GA3262@waltdnes.org> <20111121104724.GC7461@waltdnes.org> <20111201194544.GD4455@waltdnes.org> <20120103100445.GD1961@waltdnes.org> <20120103123209.GB2410@nicolas-desktop> <20120103131346.GC2410@nicolas-desktop> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Archives-Salt: 9c52afd2-85b4-49dc-9653-de768ea67c99 X-Archives-Hash: 9517b02dc66551c33d8282256370326c The 03/01/12, Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 20:13, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > > But servers have enough ressources to run udev and any required > > initramfs to mount /usr. > > No, no, no, you got it the wrong way around. > > It's not udev *per se* that I -- as a server admin -- want to get rid of. > > It's the initramfs. > > And I also want to put /usr in a separate partition. > > The problem is that, judging from where udev is going in upstream, we > will be forced to use initramfs, or put /usr in / I know. It's the "I want to get the rid of initramfs" thing that looks crazy to me. > > As initramfs is a prooven working solution, all distributions I know use > > it either by default or if needed. > > Then again, using initramfs is yet-another-component waiting to break. > > Knowing Murphy's Law, it will one day fuck up everything. And the mdev alternative won't follow this law? -- Nicolas Sebrecht