From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri40W-0005AJ-Vx for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:02:29 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3A8B21C0DC; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2C821C024 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:01:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds1 with SMTP id ds1so25280306wgb.10 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:01:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=MGaiNmvB4VTiTNm3NCGsRnyaQncfb9zbSaSO+1MkPFM=; b=DOlhhMu+BzNfO7qNDny42Wzpomcl1LZ4Miz5AZ0wKk8mA6v9q51M+ZQ2i2ASmjSblg 4zWZ5RBov/8Ef0NloARYMl0eIRflZsHuezKJojFMQGAriMfvc5PcFyPJIlGgOXEbMNcH 3B04PXJIKq5WT7621yTV/XrCXveDzTChbFGl8= Received: by 10.227.203.10 with SMTP id fg10mr51507574wbb.1.1325595665558; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:01:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dell_xps.localnet (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa. [217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u5sm54593507wbm.2.2012.01.03.05.01.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 03 Jan 2012 05:01:04 -0800 (PST) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:00:48 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.0.6-gentoo; KDE/4.7.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <4F00D521.1030702@orlitzky.com> <4F024A58.7090106@gmail.com> <4F026150.4000504@orlitzky.com> In-Reply-To: <4F026150.4000504@orlitzky.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1463786.YsGsPGkW3q"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201201031301.07205.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 5b5b251e-e8d1-407c-ae97-03034e509183 X-Archives-Hash: f92a8ad506f005a624de985b39d60b93 --nextPart1463786.YsGsPGkW3q Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tuesday 03 Jan 2012 02:00:48 Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/02/2012 07:22 PM, Dale wrote: > > I always knew I was "odd". Looks like I have some company tho. Welcome > > to the "odd user" group Michael. >=20 > It ain't us =3D) Nope. It ain't just you. It's me too. ;-) I'd rather the old default behaviour was retained/returned to. I have to=20 admit even after all this time I will occasionally forget and run emerge -u= =20 some_package, only to notice that it was added into world at the end of the= =20 emerge. Even worse, it wasn't updated (because no update was available) bu= t=20 was just added in world all the same. Of course when I notice this I go and remove it from world manually and mak= e a=20 mental note not to do this again. When I miss it, the package ends up in=20 world. :-( However, I do wonder how confused could a new user end up being with this=20 (superficially) inconsistent behaviour. The -u option works fine on world = (it=20 just updates packages already in world, but not on individual packages (it= =20 updates *and* adds said packages in world). I understand the logic, but for the reasons explained by Michael and Dale I= =20 also prefer the old behaviour to be the default: nothing gets added in wor= ld=20 as a result of updating alone. An enotice message that informs the user th= at=20 just updating the particular package(s) does not mean they are added to the= =20 world file and won't be automatically updated when running 'emerge -u world= ' in=20 the future, would educate users, along with options for adding the said=20 packages in world. Of course, the opposite will work too; flashing a fat enotice to educate u= s=20 old dogs to remember to run -1 instead of -u. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart1463786.YsGsPGkW3q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk8C/BIACgkQVTDTR3kpaLbHuACfcWG4LkqvPUG15mpXXoNu936n s0sAoMnZHDVWVSQ4so2kG0/awlSzI47R =GsR/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1463786.YsGsPGkW3q--