From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:46:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120103094642.08163fe0@rohan.example.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F024260.3050706@orlitzky.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:48:48 -0500
Michael Orlitzky <michael@orlitzky.com> wrote:
> > 2. Why do you care about those specific packages in world? Do they
> > cause a conflict or some other large problem? Personally I'd just
> > leave them in world
>
> That's the plan.
>
> Most of these servers have been running forever. I've never
> reformatted a gentoo box. If every once in a while a package gets
> added to world, it's not a problem today or tomorrow, but it might be
> in ten years if these boxes are still up -- and I expect some of them
> to be.
The way I see it there are actually two issues here, and the thread is
conflating them.
One is maintaining what is in world, dealing with bloat if it
happens, and depcleaning stuffs. All this is the province of portage.
The other is *why* you put that package there in the first place
because now you must maintain it. You chose to install a lowish level
lib for reasons of your own and forgot to document it and portage
cannot help you.
So your actual problem is that you relied on an arbitrary behaviour of
portage from the days when the standard was "whatever portage does
today" and you are unhappy because for you that is now broken.
But no-one ever promised you that behaviour in a stable API.
--
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
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Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-01 21:50 [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-01 22:06 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-01 22:13 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-01 22:31 ` Dale
2012-01-01 22:40 ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-01 22:49 ` Dale
2012-01-01 22:54 ` Claudio Roberto França Pereira
2012-01-01 23:06 ` Dale
2012-01-01 23:07 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-01 23:07 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-01 23:22 ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-02 15:35 ` Tanstaafl
2012-01-02 15:47 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 15:53 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 16:01 ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-02 16:09 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 16:16 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 16:20 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 23:33 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 0:01 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 16:33 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 17:06 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 17:39 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 17:45 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 17:55 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 18:07 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 18:20 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 20:50 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 21:08 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 21:25 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 21:33 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 22:41 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 23:11 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 23:29 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 23:48 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03 7:46 ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2012-01-03 19:48 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-03 0:01 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 23:25 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 23:49 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03 0:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-03 0:22 ` Dale
2012-01-03 2:00 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03 13:00 ` Mick
2012-01-03 2:00 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03 11:09 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 17:47 ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-02 17:55 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 17:58 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03 14:05 ` Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
2012-01-03 14:47 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 14:51 ` Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
2012-01-03 14:54 ` (Was) " Michael Mol
2012-01-03 14:55 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-03 16:00 ` Mick
2012-01-03 16:18 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-03 17:39 ` Mick
2012-01-03 17:43 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-03 17:52 ` Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
2012-01-03 18:12 ` Mick
2012-01-03 18:21 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-03 17:25 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 21:11 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 21:18 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 21:28 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 21:37 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 21:34 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 21:48 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 21:58 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 22:13 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 22:45 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 23:12 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 21:20 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 16:22 ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-02 16:33 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 16:59 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 17:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 16:57 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 17:29 ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-02 17:47 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 20:48 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-03 11:49 ` Tanstaafl
2012-01-03 12:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-04 11:57 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-02 18:14 ` Graham Murray
2012-01-02 0:09 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 0:24 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 9:19 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 10:06 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 10:18 ` Mick
2012-01-02 13:46 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 15:31 ` Tanstaafl
2012-01-02 15:47 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 15:47 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-01 22:12 ` Dale
2012-01-02 9:58 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 10:19 ` Dale
2012-01-02 10:56 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 11:06 ` Dale
2012-01-02 13:36 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 13:50 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 14:02 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 14:50 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 15:05 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 15:26 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 16:25 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2012-01-02 16:34 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 18:38 ` Dale
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