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From: Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD Movie backups
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:04:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111218130419.65e53bba@digimed.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111218094934.GA9098@grusum.endjinn.de>

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On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:49:34 +0100, David Haller wrote:

> >You also don't have the hardware to create them. CSS keys are stored
> >on a separate area of the disc, an area that is not available on
> >DVD-Rs, which is why you cannot copy a CSS-encrypted DVD with dd, it
> >copies the encrypted data but not the decryption keys.  
> 
> Sure they can be read and copied with ddrescue. On some disks at
> least. This one, I copied with ddrescue:
> 
> $ xine dvd://${PWD}/some_rather_recent_dvd.iso
> This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.6.
> (c) 2000-2007 The xine Team.
> libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.11 for DVD access
> libdvdcss error: failed to open raw device, but continuing
> 
> libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys
> libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient
> 
> libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x00000130
> libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
> [..]
> 
> and the xine plays the .iso as usual. On the other paw, there's other
> discs where 'ddrescue' just causes those "scrambled sector" messages,
> but the images made with k3b works just fine:

I didn't say you can't read then, I said you can't write them, because
the key storage area is not writeable on DVD-R discs.

Yes, Joerg, I know people with your connections can get special discs and
drives, but for standard consumer hardware and media, what I said was
true.


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Neil Bothwick

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-18 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-16 16:07 [gentoo-user] DVD Movie backups Mark Knecht
2011-12-16 17:06 ` Michael Mol
2011-12-16 17:25   ` Mark Knecht
2011-12-16 17:51     ` Joerg Schilling
2011-12-16 17:53     ` Michael Mol
2011-12-16 18:02       ` Mark Knecht
2011-12-16 21:07       ` Joerg Schilling
2011-12-17  1:34         ` David Haller
2011-12-16 18:30     ` David Haller
2011-12-16 19:03     ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2011-12-16 19:19       ` Mark Knecht
2011-12-17 20:13         ` Grant Edwards
2011-12-17 23:03           ` Neil Bothwick
2011-12-18  0:35             ` Mark Knecht
2011-12-18  0:43               ` Michael Mol
2011-12-18  1:22               ` Paul Hartman
2011-12-18  9:49             ` David Haller
2011-12-18 13:04               ` Neil Bothwick [this message]
2011-12-18 12:35             ` Joerg Schilling
2011-12-16 21:08       ` Joerg Schilling
2011-12-16 19:15     ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2011-12-16 19:30       ` Paul Hartman
2011-12-16 20:04       ` Mark Knecht
2011-12-16 21:12       ` Joerg Schilling
2011-12-19  7:29         ` Raffaele BELARDI
2011-12-19  9:35           ` Joerg Schilling
2011-12-17  2:25       ` David Haller
2011-12-17 20:39         ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2011-12-17 21:16           ` Stroller
2011-12-18  3:07             ` Grant Edwards
2011-12-18 19:54               ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2011-12-17 23:07           ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2011-12-17 11:26       ` [gentoo-user] " Peter Humphrey
2011-12-17 20:09         ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2011-12-17 21:19           ` Michael Mol
2011-12-17 22:28             ` Peter Humphrey
2011-12-17 22:32               ` Michael Mol
2011-12-17 23:43                 ` Peter Humphrey
2011-12-18  0:06                   ` Michael Mol
2011-12-18  9:32                   ` Neil Bothwick
2011-12-18 12:45                   ` Joerg Schilling
2011-12-18 13:58                     ` Peter Humphrey
2011-12-18 14:21                       ` Peter Humphrey
2011-12-16 19:21 ` James

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