From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RaFgg-0005VM-JP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:53:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FFB121C04C; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com (mail-gx0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B54821C04C for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnr5 with SMTP id r5so1426921ggn.40 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:52:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=QI4ryRkxFQtKkgKfNuGKuCf+P8FH+tLK53z3aCoGVtQ=; b=GRakDHlwYBHfJ1vNm3UDsLLW5RTKar7oxu9YXgFY1nK8OSOOFw2/5ZafbEJm+goFGI /QROdUdDMrlcp2AqKJwvWEEB/tR2eYF6ALopW/eCkjjDRn4v12URr64Sy4rc5rfRQw/3 Hih8mOEQNPyClm7UMSN2XlpFbcKi9VsHk2SKo= Received: by 10.101.6.34 with SMTP id j34mr73684ani.22.1323733947639; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:52:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from gaurahari.merseine.nu (c-24-99-240-138.hsd1.ga.comcast.net. [24.99.240.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a7sm54466828ana.5.2011.12.12.15.52.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:52:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:52:22 -0500 From: Indi To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse Message-ID: <20111212235222.GA22117@gaurahari.merseine.nu> References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 7154d1d7-eedb-490e-9078-cf2a06cf8757 X-Archives-Hash: 0f6c8b02482349c08472bc55b05592c6 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 03:40:02PM +0100, Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Dec 10, 2011 8:50 PM, "LinuxIsOne" <[1]linuxisone@gmail.com> wrot= e: > > >=20 > ----- >8 snip >=20 > > > > I have come to conclusion that almost all Linux work almost in the > > same way since they have the same kernel, however, this is what I > > think. >=20 > I don't mean to scare you, but most Linux distros work differently. >=20 > First, there might be differences in how they install a package. > There's RPM, apt, pacman, portage, and others. >=20 > Second, there are differences in the "init" system. Gentoo users > OpenRC, Ubuntu uses upstart, and others use SysVinit, systemd, and s= o > on. >=20 > And even you can't guarantee that the kernels are the same. Many > distros introduce their own distro-specific patches to the vanilla > kernel. With Gentoo, it's even more complicated, as most experienced > Gentooroids will configure and compile their own kernels. >=20 > (The last paragraph, however, is the reason why Gentoo is so secure: > attackers can't be sure that the vuln they're targeting is located a= t > the right spot, *if* the vuln exists at all. Throw in hardened patch= es > like GrSecurity, PAX, and SELinux... well, you get the idea.) Probably he doesn't; one has to learn a bit before any of this will make sense to them. Imagine having this converstaion with your great-aunt Agnes... ;) >=20 > ((No wonder NASDAQ uses Gentoo for its infrastructure)) >=20 Indeed. --=20 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2= =9D=A4=20