Re: [gentoo-user] KDEPIM-4.7.3 hits the stable tree ... brrrrr!

[Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>]

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On Thursday 08 Dec 2011 14:51:52 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 06:47:22AM +0000, Mick wrote:
> > > > Following Alan's disastrous experience where he saw all his messages
> > > > disappear before his eyes I am doubly cautious.
> > > > 
> > > > Has anyone tried the migration to 4.7 yet?
> > > 
> > > I installed my first 4.7.x kdepim on 30th of July. I was quite happy
> > > with it. Migration went smooth and I only had to recreate my filters,
> > > I guess because the filters’ target folders were now addressed
> > > differently.
> > > 
> > > kdepimlibs-4.7.3 came on 4th of november. The only thing I remember
> > > from the last weeks is that I was unable to read any mail. All I got
> > > in KMail were revolving cirlces and “Fetching folder content” screens.
> > > I didn’t lose any mail, as far as I can tell. But I was growing tired
> > > of Akondi even before that. So being unable to read anything finally
> > > pushed me to mutt. ^^
> > 
> > Oh dear!  I better get prepared for learning all the mutt shortcuts then?
> 
> Hihi, well there are tons of alternatives. Despite my keeping distance from
> GTK for general use (except for the obvious, such as Gimp and Inkscape),
> Thunderbird is very good (which I used before I switched to Linux). Its
> handling of data was very stable and efficient, last time I used it. I
> still have it installed in my old Windows and keep it up to date.
> 
> > > I don’t have _that_ many mails, at the time of my switching about 13000
> > > or so, mostly in a few mailing lists. The average dev probably has
> > > much more than that. But even with that number, I had more than 30
> > > seconds of additional full HDD load after login (once I removed the
> > > mail resources, login time until idle went from 1:05 to ~33 seconds).
> > 
> > What?!!  Each time you load the desktop/start kmail?!  This can't be
> > right!
> 
> Well, starting KMail is quite quick. But so it was before Akonadi times,
> because KMail used the storage layer natively.
> 
> > > Plus, all mail files were individually duplicated in the Akonadi
> > > folder... what gives? While I understand the reasoning behind Akonadi
> > > and its potential, I do question the implementation.
> > 
> > I can't even understand the reasoning!  Enforcing a database backend on a
> > desktop use case should not be the default solution for a PIM.
> 
> Well when it eventually works as imagined it’s quite nice, I guess. A
> database “cache” usually is meant to increase access speed, but they’re
> not quite there yet. The benefit is that you can access the same
> information from one single data source (like all your mails) from several
> applications, such as KMail, or a plasmoid, or... uhm...  well those two.
> ^^ (how about a web service, or integration into other PIM apps)
> 
> <rumble>
> To me it seems we Gentooians don’t care much about social sharing, semantic
> desktops or data associations. We know where our files are and what they
> contain, we want to control ourselves where our personal information is
> stored. We want efficient environments that do what we want, not what the
> devs imagine is the future of the desktop.
> 
> :D </rumble>
> 
> Hehe, that sounds like a political manifesto.

I don't care if it is - I would definitely vote for it!  :p

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Regards,
Mick

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