From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RXbQu-0005Nw-De for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:30:25 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F3B221C087; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE6121C04C for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywm19 with SMTP id 19so5382078ywm.40 for ; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 08:28:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=RHP2uGpMeQp5u5wfeXCFlsZx+DnWhi16lX+N4dwI8tU=; b=n/7QpSMEo9f2MRnlP9uneDdEnvHf8wbNNalQ/Xav/hgGW8wQLJ462jKEBgNmAnV5iA Mv7yMUcIYPfvMNCWrj1fVcqwvU7OzeW8X71oekIHkd2Irf5+y3oCcNQDEElZeeQMMwbN XSkBspu3mFqbl1HgOC+qU2wWGDpJDn5MnZuFc= Received: by 10.236.128.242 with SMTP id f78mr4453448yhi.7.1323102501846; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 08:28:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from gaurahari.merseine.nu (c-24-99-240-138.hsd1.ga.comcast.net. [24.99.240.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a11sm20993526anc.11.2011.12.05.08.28.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 05 Dec 2011 08:28:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 11:28:11 -0500 From: Indi To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse Message-ID: <20111205162811.GA25109@gaurahari.merseine.nu> References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: aeee7e9d-d9b5-4561-bb7f-e3992fbf2205 X-Archives-Hash: 84b7028d0347cb8283c8226cbefd4cc2 On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 03:40:01PM +0100, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Harry Putnam wrote= : >=20 > > For the OP, a few posters have mentioned that under gentoo, every > > thing is compiled from scratch, but it was not made clear that it > > happens again and again at most updates. > > > > No one has made clear that there is a very HUGE amount of time sunk > > into compiling absolutely everything. >=20 > I'd say "bull", but that depends *greatly* on your hardware. When I > talk about Gentoo with my friends, they admit to having tried it, but > then say it took them a long, long time to build a system on their > 486. You don't want to run Gentoo compiles on a 486. You probably > ought not to run Gentoo compiles on any x86 processor older than an > Athlon64 or Intel Core chip. > I have gentoo on a few machines here, including a Pentium-M powered Thinkpad (single core, 1.7GHz) and a G4 eMac (single core PPC, 1.25GHz).=20 They handle it just fine, though it does take awhile to update of course. Never the "two or three days" people love to cry about, but then I don't use gnome or kde, so maybe it would if I did... As long as I keep them updated weekly, it rarely takes more than four hours and often takes as little as 60-90 minutes. I'm using fvwm these days, in case anyone's curious. Lot of work to set up, but it does everything extremely well once configured. The difference in the performance with gentoo on a lower spec machine=20 does make it pretty worthwhile to suffer the updates, IMO.=20 In fact, I like gentoo and FreeBSD best for low-spoec hardware. YMMV of course... :) --=20 caveat utilitor =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2=9D=A4 =E2=99=AB =E2= =9D=A4=20