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[217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dt8sm3608104wib.21.2011.12.02.09.49.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:49:46 -0800 (PST) From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:50:36 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.0.6-gentoo; KDE/4.6.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <CAG-YhMsWczs96ZQ5Cast-PXLuZTDTzD199QkEm12bZVKgC6hVA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAG-YhMsWczs96ZQ5Cast-PXLuZTDTzD199QkEm12bZVKgC6hVA@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1683972.9gzmyBWzfY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201112021750.46337.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: ffd465e3-35cc-46a0-9061-e6060f399d32 X-Archives-Hash: f0bcb6b805e36e1681f5b34cd8158bbb --nextPart1683972.9gzmyBWzfY Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Friday 02 Dec 2011 14:41:29 LinuxIsOne wrote: > Hello, >=20 > Does one have the experience for the following: >=20 > gentoo vs openSUSE >=20 > for ease of use, better navigation, applications working perfectly > without any crash(es), better up gradations, smooth working, > etc..etc... >=20 > Best Regards. If you want *exactly* what OpenSUSE have included in their distro then=20 OpenSUSE is for you. Some applications and the whole system will run slowe= r=20 than Gentoo. Invariably some applications could experience crashes and wha= t=20 not - any distro would from time to time have such problems and may not be= =20 distro specific anyway, but application specific. If you want to include additional applications or versions of applications= =20 that OpenSUSE repos do not cater for, then you may run into dependency hell= =2E =20 At best, some apps will just not install or work as intended. At worst you= =20 could break the underlying distro if you try hard enough and have to=20 reinstall. With Gentoo you have higher flexibility on what you install and portage is= =20 definitely thousands times better than YaST, in terms of configurabilty. Y= ou=20 will still get the odd application that is buggy, but as a rule your system= =20 will run lighter and faster because each binary is compiled from source wit= h=20 the CFALGS and USE flags that you have specified for your system. On the o= ther=20 hand it will take some time and effort to keep your Gentoo up to date. Another difference between OpenSUSE and Gentoo is that you will not need to= =20 reinstall Gentoo to get the latest desktop, or init system or what-ever sys= tem=20 wide upgrade is next. With OpenSUSE upgrades imply a reinstallation (unles= s=20 YaST got cleverer since the last time I used it). Invariably you will also= =20 never need to reinstall Gentoo to fix any breakages - most problems you may= =20 come across you will learn how to recover from with clever use of portage. In conclusion: If you prefer quick installation and easy/quick updates, but with limited=20 choice on what gets installed and how it is configured, and the OpenSUSE su= ite=20 of packages will meet your application needs comprehensively, then OpenSUSE= is=20 a well polished distro that will fit the bill. If you value higher performance and a much higher degree of configurability= ,=20 then Gentoo will be your choice; but that comes at the expense of a=20 protracted installation process (especially if you have not done this befor= e)=20 and some admin time on a regular basis to keep your system and applications= up=20 to date. With Gentoo you will be *forced* to learn a lot to install your system and= =20 keep it running. With OpenSUSE the learning curve will likely be considera= bly=20 flatter. It would be advisable to try them both out in LiveCDs (or even install them= in=20 VMs) to see which you feel more comfortable working with. For a Gentoo bas= ed=20 LiveCD you could try Sabayon: http://www.sabayon.org/ and this may also be= =20 used for a quick (binary) installation of a Gentoo-like system. HTH. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart1683972.9gzmyBWzfY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk7ZD/YACgkQVTDTR3kpaLbADACg0GZY42oywH8mXAA1k4fme4tJ 5XIAnjzTB4aL3Th88fZIJSdwLgxGODPm =eNc6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1683972.9gzmyBWzfY--