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[217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w8sm15118654wiz.4.2011.11.29.15.13.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:13:01 -0800 (PST) From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Google Talk and 9999 versions Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 23:13:41 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.0.6-gentoo; KDE/4.6.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <CA+czFiAwW1AZ67OBEyUcVazLsmAtwjR9DA0aSpmFgbNVuN0pPQ@mail.gmail.com> <4ED4EB89.5020307@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ED4EB89.5020307@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1912472.6oFqVv2qxl"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201111292314.00904.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 7fd4cac9-eae9-4efc-bd62-39878e9789f1 X-Archives-Hash: 912ae78aad39a52a00b41c3d49becfc2 --nextPart1912472.6oFqVv2qxl Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tuesday 29 Nov 2011 14:26:17 Dale wrote: > Michael Mol wrote: > > on my partial ~amd64 system, I have googletalk-plugin installed, and > > it serves me well. On my new box (also partial ~amd64, but far more in > > the stable realm than unstable realm), I tried to emerge > > googletalk-plugin, and it's masked. It's also a '9999' version > > package. I vaguely recall that '9999' packages are special somehow. > > How is that? >=20 > I think those are called the live builds. Basically, they are not > tested much and are really close to falling off the bleeding edge. I > rarely mess with those. There is a google-talkplugin-2.5.6.0 that is > not live but keyworded. If it was me, I would at least try that version > first. It is likely tested a bit more, not going to change so often and > be stable as it gets in the unstable branch of the tree. If that fails, > go back to the older version. If neither works, then I would try to > 9999 build. I'd also cross my fingers for good measure. 9999 builds is the latest potentially unstable and incomplete code that the= =20 devs just churned out and uploaded to cvs. 10 minutes later may be another= =20 revision and so on. Every time you rebuild you'll be downloading the late= st=20 attempt of their coding. What is annoying is that you had it working just right and suddenly all the= =20 9999 builds have come off the boil and break in a bad way. This can be=20 particularly burdensome or even debilitating for a prolonged period, like I= =20 experienced with some wireless drivers in the past. Of course, not all 9999 packages are that 'unstable'. I've been running e1= 7=20 for some time now and only every once in a while I happen to come across a = bug=20 or build problem. Even so, I tend not to update 9999 packages often, once = I=20 get a well behaving revision. YMMV =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart1912472.6oFqVv2qxl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk7VZzgACgkQVTDTR3kpaLaxBwCfSl88VYfXlw5N6/K/xbY0SgiL 4I0AoLap5i5aP0J6TThTP1eNoB8uzChj =8ok5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1912472.6oFqVv2qxl--