From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RTBHX-0001gU-K8 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:46:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ECEDF21C074; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arsenic.logifi.fr (arsenic.logifi.fr [217.108.178.219]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62EA21C052 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nicolas-desktop (unknown [192.168.8.78]) by arsenic.logifi.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38FB1FFDF; Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:55:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:45:30 +0100 From: Nicolas Sebrecht To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Nicolas Sebrecht Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: A helping hand with virtual machines, please. Message-ID: <20111123114530.GC2423@nicolas-desktop> References: <20111122192021.GA3364@acm.acm> <20111122222923.7c1a6901@rohan.example.com> <20111123091707.GB2423@nicolas-desktop> <20111123132123.544dcbb4@rohan.example.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111123132123.544dcbb4@rohan.example.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Archives-Salt: f36675bd-b9c3-432e-9066-e29fbabd6afd X-Archives-Hash: ebd4976a8c09e0053fccaac8b74c39e3 The 23/11/11, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 10:17:07 +0100 > Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > > You're wrong. Using the virtualbox module means you turn the kernel to > > "tained crap" because of the number of problems it causes, including > > random memory curruption. > > Care to back that up with something resembling evidence? > > EVERY out-of-tree module will taint the kernel. But not all virtualization solutions use out-of-tree module and from those coming out-of-tree, few are taint as "crap". > As to whether it > deserves the "crap" moniker is a matter of opinion ...I'd rather say a matter of facts. :-) Every one is free to support virtualbox but forgetting to talk about this taint level is not very fair, FMPOV. -- Nicolas Sebrecht