From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org)
	by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60)
	(envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-131379-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>)
	id 1RSygW-0006TI-Ij
	for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:19:24 +0000
Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB51F21C0E3;
	Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:19:14 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from mail.muc.de (colin.muc.de [193.149.48.1])
	by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8499EE0691
	for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:18:11 +0000 (UTC)
Received: (qmail 50772 invoked by uid 3782); 22 Nov 2011 22:18:11 -0000
Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9519E4D.dip.t-dialin.net [217.81.158.77]) by
	colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP;
	Tue, 22 Nov 2011 23:18:10 +0100
Received: (qmail 5877 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Nov 2011 22:12:42 -0000
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:12:42 +0000
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A helping hand with virtual machines, please.
Message-ID: <20111122221242.GB3364@acm.acm>
References: <20111122192021.GA3364@acm.acm>
	<4ECC0297.2080503@desaster-games.com>
Precedence: bulk
List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org>
X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <4ECC0297.2080503@desaster-games.com>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)
X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan)
From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Archives-Salt: 69303dee-9631-404c-9e4e-5c08bf48ad0a
X-Archives-Hash: 9b6506e30bb77af3e9b510cf2c9c0d66

Good evening, Felix!

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 09:14:15PM +0100, Felix Kuperjans wrote:
> Hi Alan,

> Am 22.11.2011 20:20, schrieb Alan Mackenzie:
> > Hi, Gentoo.

> > A friend of mine recently suggested I should install and play with
> > virtual machines on my Gentoo.

> > I've scanned /usr/portage for likely looking packages, particularly i=
n
> > directory "virtual", yet found nothing likely looking.
> Virtual machines are all in /usr/portage/app-emulation, not in virtual
> (that is for virtual packages).
> > Would somebody please give me some hints which packages I should be
> > looking at, and perhaps any use flags I might need.
> VirtualBox is quite easy for beginners, but requires external kernel
> modules and requires a GUI (what you most probably want anyway).

> KVM (maybe with virt-manager as a GUI) is quite powerful for desktop
> virtualization, but requires processor support (but it is available on
> all recent (Core2 oder newer) non-Atom CPUs by Intel and AFAIK all
> recent AMD CPUs) and the kernel modules (but they are real upstream
> modules and very stable).

I'm kind of leaning towards KVM at the moment.  Just a quick question:
by "kernel modules" do you literally mean kernel modules?  It's just that
my kernel isn't built for modules (for simplicity's sake), so would that
mean me having to change this, or can I just build the stuff in?

> Xen is the most advanced solution, but maybe not the best one to play
> around. But it's supported by virt-manager, too.

> > TVM

--=20
Alan Mackenzie (N=FCrnberg).